From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: User interaction from multiple threads Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:19:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87k1oq1gql.fsf@gmx.de> References: <838t59j821.fsf@gnu.org> <5B73DF10.5070200@gmx.at> <83tvnvinlh.fsf@gnu.org> <5B756C2A.4020706@gmx.at> <83bma2ifwg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1534434728 449 195.159.176.226 (16 Aug 2018 15:52:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 15:52:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: martin rudalics , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 16 17:52:03 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fqKZ8-0008QI-I0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:52:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56508 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fqKbF-0002jR-2q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:54:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34251) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fqK3l-0003xb-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:19:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fqK3i-0002rK-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:19:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:48725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fqK3h-0002qY-PZ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:19:34 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.249.109]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LwF9u-1fwK8T0xji-0181OY; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:19:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83bma2ifwg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 16 Aug 2018 16:45:35 +0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:wUk0MFl1jANH0pq44uQirwgeyaeHO3lbE0Edz3kJTesVSSdVriy NdJpka+bdtah8iS9f5HZHco3dnwO1dkpbzXmCcWdZc767j57shxQd/HcuU+re3PxCEcAZRq VOhKw/leZXWWLUo7CfT38bWOnKDTSc6ePHYPdyFzDXBSaT9fFSlk1T0y92ODkS3dSw7DDXt cld8MNYz5gUkbv/pqtQVw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:T3b1AP+bfPw=:R4iBtzpqFprJq5BIE2FUUQ 9PdPKNIWygdONQzZmRhQz34xJywLvdBVs2P5kYL4X5uylSrKOxGhz2H956OBenSDVWjyHnzgk 6+AxNHRZwIJKtiqwD5w69AOhBj0Y91oojYvFFKGFYsj7fqGCXhB6dWq10x7xBt2BJi5qft1+x Gc+esAwbkGikdpNeC3UKbvj1CqYpgnNItKLm6IWiVAEXzxfc4jy1ae+ityLpoLa5mftVKzukk qFTbnAjVstVXmMozLo0XuFW97sxjRuhcBUJ1vIUAB+8IwmZm5AoiiKURqILE1gKaGdFKPpkPP m48ZRp0fZG/PMWlgMIuFohDMClzCyfE/LJsN8V5towiAhinshbosCAUatikbYDSuLKEGetQ5E 8eX7tIwe3Fotr+h9tlr/edKvIBR2ePPM3KoplrHmqK/he07ssBXp3qycCWoY1MfuRLp9tc9Gn 0KRZjrXxq8zaIGsG2k01eSfu/nueCPbuJDh7NJXs8MrwCwTpZX1CGIBfNIxgLF3iAiW8prTFt oio6fS82uUKpK2nN/i5Jt5DFLdE6qax4QFV3Cb273tn1tauSrne756huV5pyUhRq8MvQ5RGt9 mh5tNW1JvuTooX0j9muzgMlqcoedk4OPDr8YooNYqQDaNenml7qx7ZAqCtDoZSFZPd2Ssomxi Dy6dY5YRrV25UVXw5DBtIVSgkmxmQTntDM3agDzxEFXsKCVuPZ/OePaiuA1yEVqLyRoS+MR1s Ic1WsriBVLHzKM8Sz+Ist32r74tvMowdxfLp1G/24/1VwBZyEocz24l8UF5rB1Wu4ipgwHKl X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228596 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > The simplest idea is to have every primitive that displays in the echo > area to take a certain mutex before it does so. Agreed. Some days ago, I've tried to implement such an approach in the feature/tramp-thread-safe branch. This failed miserably, due to my lack of understanding how echo area, minibuffer and keyboard events are handled in Emacs. Some help would be appreciated for a proof of concept. (Maybe it is too early to ask for, since we are still collecting ideas) Best regards, Michael.