From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Confused by y-or-n-p Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:48:36 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87k0t2tixn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <834kkcr1eo.fsf@gnu.org> <43b24209-fa65-0e26-7cbd-f99175a7ffd8@gmx.at> <87wnx7j5is.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83im8qnyca.fsf@gnu.org> <83bleinmse.fsf@gnu.org> <56435592-d2d0-5fb6-977f-01e1931da835@gmx.at> <87k0t38g1z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <39fcdf1e-11ec-d5e0-d7f3-fac64621f3f1@gmx.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24303"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 28 10:10:06 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ktoXW-0006EZ-BK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 10:10:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42620 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktoXV-0000Or-C8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 04:10:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36930) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktoTc-0003Rh-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 04:06:04 -0500 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:59481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktoTa-0002zn-V1; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 04:06:04 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.99.98 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-99-98.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.99.98]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 599461BF204; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 09:05:56 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <39fcdf1e-11ec-d5e0-d7f3-fac64621f3f1@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sun, 27 Dec 2020 18:16:36 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.201; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261989 Archived-At: >> This is exactly what we recently did for the function 'read-char-choice'. >> Instead of changing its long-standing implementation that uses 'read-key', >> we left it unchanged, and only changed its caller to rely on a different >> function that uses the minibuffer to read a character. > > Do you mean 'dired-query' and 'zap-up-to-char'? Only 'dired-query'. 'zap-up-to-char' is a different case. >> The same way we could add a function with old implementation of 'y-or-n-p', >> and depending on an option use either of them. So two new options are >> needed: to select an implementation of y-or-n-p and and also an option >> to choose either to use yes-or-no-p or y-or-n-p with shorter answers. > > This would be OK I think. With the "use the old implementation" option > going to Emacs 27.2 and the use 'y-or-n-p' instead of 'yes-or-no-p' to > master. > >> Or maybe just one variable with three choices: long answers with yes-or-no-p, >> short answers with read-key, short answers with the minibuffer. > > This would probably bother both conservative and more adventurous users > with something they'd never want. I agree.