From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Internationalize Emacs's messages (swahili) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 23:52:54 +0100 Message-ID: <87k0t2q2t5.fsf@logand.com> References: <87o8ivumn5.fsf@telefonica.net> <83pn30pku5.fsf@gnu.org> <86wnx8otoj.fsf@163.com> <834kkbp9vr.fsf@gnu.org> <87czyxuxw6.fsf@db48x.net> <87y2hlt82w.fsf@db48x.net> <87lfdlvsw4.fsf@logand.com> <83h7o8ncly.fsf@gnu.org> <87pn2wudab.fsf@db48x.net> <87mty0c3m1.fsf@gnus.org> <83czywnb86.fsf@gnu.org> <87im8ob707.fsf@gnus.org> <87eejcb6nx.fsf@gnus.org> <875z4ob5c9.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6u09nkq.fsf@gnus.org> <875z4o9jdg.fsf@gnus.org> <87ft3rflw2.fsf@igel.home> <87czyu9a72.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37645"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" , Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 27 23:53:51 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ktev9-0009hX-12 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 23:53:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53552 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktev8-0007zf-3T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 17:53:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kteuJ-0007Xe-QB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 17:53:00 -0500 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:50702) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kteuH-0008Kk-JC; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 17:52:59 -0500 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id AA9C019F671; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 23:52:55 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: emacs 26.3 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261935 Archived-At: On Sun 27 Dec 2020 at 17:32, "Alfred M. Szmidt" wrote: > Because people say (if (= (length foo) 0)) all over the place, > without caring whether foo is a list, a string, or whatever, and I > want them to be able to say (if (length= foo 0)) with the same > confidence and convenience. > > If the goal is to avoid writing bad code, The goal is to avoid writing bad code and also to easily fix existing bad code. > then one should definitly not be introducing something like length= as > a means to evade it, since both those forms are to be avoided. Why?