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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264510 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 08:33:45 -0500, James Cloos s= aid: >>>>> "c" =3D=3D chad writes: c> In more pragmatic terms, I would guess that it's entirely possible to c> excise motif/lesstif, athena, and Xaw3d from main without anyone not= icing. James> no it would not be. James> i only use xaw3d. (like athena/lucid, but with depth and therefo= re James> easier to glance.) Yes, lucid in its various incarnations is still useful in a lot of cases. James> i have no idea whether anyone still uses motif. We=CA=BCre about to find out, as I=CA=BCve just removed it from master. Robert