From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:15:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k0r8xl7y.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y2fq9f0v.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 15 Feb 2021 05:38:24 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Isn't this a bit premature? I thought we were still debating how best
> to implement the annotations?
The discussion seems to have evaporated, so...
Stefan M was in favour of using contextual annotation, so that
(some-new-directive 'foo-mode)
(defun foo-thing1 ()
(interactive))
(defun foo-thing2 ()
(interactive))
means that these two commands are tagged as being for foo-mode, and then
using "negative tagging" like
(declare (completion t))
on the commands that shouldn't get that tagging. He didn't expound on
why -- whether he just thinks (interactive "p" foo-mode) is just too
ugly, and offends the eye, or whether this would be less work.
It won't be less work -- adding the markup is mechanical, but whether a
command should be mode-specific (and in what mode it should be in) is
what requires work: You have to actually look at each command and make
the determination (and that's the case whether you use contextual
annotations or not).
For instance, I tagged up message.el, and most of the commands are for
message mode, some are general, and there's one command
(`message-make-html-message-with-image-files') that only works in
dired-mode. (This sort of thing is more common than you'd think --
there's a bunch of commands work in the intersection of two modes, so
it's arbitrary what file they end up in.)
(I've already written about how I think contextual annotations are a
long-term maintenance nightmare, so I won't repeat that bit here.)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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[not found] ` <20210213141226.EEDFE20999@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2021-02-13 20:04 ` scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 15:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:03 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 17:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 20:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-15 3:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2021-02-16 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 16:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 17:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 17:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 19:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 20:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-16 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 22:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:22 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-16 22:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 0:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 11:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 11:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 9:10 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 10:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 11:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:45 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 18:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 8:50 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 16:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-16 22:31 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-17 16:53 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-16 22:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-16 22:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 23:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-16 23:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 5:36 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-17 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:01 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 19:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 19:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 19:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 23:57 ` Rolf Ade
2021-02-16 21:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 8:58 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 10:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 11:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:45 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 21:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 22:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 3:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-18 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 5:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-18 10:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 10:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 10:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 16:47 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-19 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 12:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 15:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 20:37 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-02-14 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 16:49 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-14 17:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 17:52 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-14 19:54 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-14 17:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 16:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:23 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 17:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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