From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:34:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87k0r06ui4.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1laomak.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn0uzubj.fsf@gnu.org> <87im6molnq.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8geztvt.fsf@gnu.org> <871rdaokhi.fsf@gnus.org> <83mtvyzscl.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft1pjuih.fsf@gnus.org> <83ft1pxsn8.fsf@gnu.org> <878s7hia9j.fsf@gnus.org> <834ki5xpgf.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31705"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 15:36:08 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lECJj-000870-T6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:36:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40748 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lECJi-0003D1-VC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 09:36:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48696) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lECIm-0002B3-4a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 09:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:37554) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lECIk-00019d-Gr; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 09:35:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=I+tPSxDkMMbApz3EGvGyREVWy5SLmqo6UbWWfP49HWA=; b=Qvzf02VWJEg18vIQlAFxrQNcN0 gfeWVgobOdQe2Osx8RZPGCH9IPTZWEkk661RB7+XGs6kgvUz78mDiPRaEpo9fbdGA6yRJb18U0vUR PEFS8RfcI8i+FE8LPwnPGUGFuS8wCykXPN7yyhi7rI8xW8YjUJfhuh2wiUA7Obz1S5Ik=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lECIf-00063k-1o; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 15:35:03 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEULDA5ES1x8k77/ //9UAbFeAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+UCFg4VGkWmSdYAAAFXSURBVCjPZdKxasMwEAbg /4IUaCcX5CVThxZCn0KGtrNSfKbx5CEZ4qdwl8ymJIVkymBDfU9ZyUlcl2ow+rjTWb4zcF0RboY9 FNYjkPinxf+lxqA/oXE6uVHSXTpAJ8/p5IpHo+Ph0FJRW13RKH06V9Ds7mHqAi4FMe9XMEkN12jO pCtArzWsizORxr/pJZwI2MEpHeD3HoVaEJgCGkQqAYQDKkQhS9qAre+HDWCR71kNmAtOZd1fpceH cI8Ne0y7vAd7NLft5oJM6vLr1MN4JHKs+rbFPu1Wyp1WvikxZ2+zbnNYK0ww45xKafM29fCR2t+6 7KIAnTUihXSKJn1pkc9jB6Izuq3sDTE44VxsfkwfqARrzhv7dHBzWiIGZTVKtu8+4j8ps4pTmnuE 7gKpIwN9GaBzw3wNpTYaxqZWv9OtEmsji74AHMHa659gFJIhb+qwEKvwA8XNcjIse59yAAAAJXRF WHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAyLTIyVDE0OjIxOjI2KzAwOjAw93HaPwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpt b2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMi0yMlQxNDoyMToyNiswMDowMIYsYoMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Ben Neill's _Night Science_: "Menace Ultimo" In-Reply-To: <834ki5xpgf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 21 Feb 2021 20:09:36 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265476 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Making changes, discovering they bring more trouble than they are > worth, debugging the problems, then reverting takes time and precious > energy. The gains, OTOH, are minuscule, if they even exist. I don't > know how you, but to me the decision looks a no-brainer. It does indeed not look that way to me -- I've now pushed what I think you were suggesting? It looks a bit error-prone to me, so perhaps you had something different in mind. (For instance, if the user has bound the command to anything else involving a shift command, then they'll (probably, depending on the differences between last-command-event and this-single-command-keys) get "M-X" now.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no