From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs default bindings Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 15:37:58 +0200 Message-ID: <87k0jrxk5l.fsf@gnus.org> References: <46353190-1190-495f-b15e-22980159b3ab@yandex.ru> <83y28mp0rb.fsf@gnu.org> <51a363db-fde7-791d-cf8d-98ac601d62ee@yandex.ru> <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> <01341bd6-b94b-4f94-1461-405e723142ad@yandex.ru> <8735qmjklm.fsf@localhost> <87ilzi86h7.fsf@posteo.net> <875yvh9anq.fsf@posteo.net> <83o899yjh2.fsf@gnu.org> <83ilzbo9jj.fsf@gnu.org> <3283dcc3-1abf-3fb1-7c54-cd6bed105cf8@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1729"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: philipk@posteo.net, danflscr@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, yantar92@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Eli Zaretskii To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 08 15:41:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxpb-0000FF-3s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 15:41:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50090 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxpZ-0005aF-W5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:41:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60220) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxmD-0000nh-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:38:09 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:49876) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxmB-0004Yi-UO; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 09:38:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4x7Jhe+dehe52ZUyZTLLmjBvO7E6WxDJpsIaQema5Vo=; b=dxi2VsKkKlXR/OHIh6CJVByrdu e4nevCM71uajxWe9z60OI1yxlu0LmWJVUUb3nxX9FsoioOAdnr0KnOoKHuLh/w9tcq4W6C8Tz+d53 oF4bhW609gZnXLr8grCN7tDSdXHV0u77K2trbGBuyTBEPCOXb54TnwHgcGNGVF7fvjqs=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNxm2-0003Gl-KH; Wed, 08 Sep 2021 15:38:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3283dcc3-1abf-3fb1-7c54-cd6bed105cf8@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 8 Sep 2021 15:26:26 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274341 Archived-At: I haven't really been following this thread, but it's about making `show-paren-mode' default in Emacs 28? I'm not sure that's quite the right thing to do at this point -- as bug#29381 points out, it probably shouldn't be a global minor mode, but should instead be a globalized minor mode (since that'll make it easier to switch on/off on a per-major-mode basis). So it should be rewritten as a show-paren-mode/show-paren-local-mode and then enabled, but that's too late for Emacs 28. (And there's also some other open bugs for the mode in interactions with other stuff, but I haven't looked closely at that.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no