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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru, juri@linkov.net
Subject: Re: master ff4de1b: Fix quoting style in Lisp comments
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 16:12:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k0jfxpe2.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834kakadga.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 16 Sep 2021 15:53:57 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> If this discussion indicates something it's that "plain text" is open
> to interpretation, so if we will have a mandatory convention, we'd
> need to come up with an explicit list.  E.g., NEWS and PROBLEMS are by
> default in Outline mode, not in Text mode, so someone could claim they
> aren't "plain text".

I guess somebody could -- we'll have to wait and see whether anybody
does make that argument.

>> (And when it comes to commit messages, I don't think we should have a
>> convention -- it just doesn't matter, and people should use whatever
>> they want to.)
>
> We produce ChangeLog files from that.
>
> And if we allow people to do what they want, then we have that
> already, so I see no reason to argue about conventions no one will
> follow.

You were the one that brought up commit messages, and I just re-stated
my position that we don't need to have a convention there (and you seem
to be agreeing here).

That doesn't mean that I don't think we should have a convention
elsewhere, and I think it should be, basically, what we have today:

NEWS, CONTRIBUTE and other files of a similar ilk should use '...'.
.el/.c files should use `...' (when talking about Lisp symbols).

> Btw, `...' in *.c files is not highlighted.

I'd forgotten -- it'd be nice to have that fixed.

>> and if we decide to move to '...', we
>> should do so everywhere in those files: Both doc strings and comments.
>
> That is impossible, because doc strings must still use `...'.

We'd have to change the machinery to do the same thing with '...' as we
today do with `...', of course.  (But note that I'm not advocating for
this.)

> And I don't see why comments and doc strings should use the same
> convention, they are used differently.

We often move text between comments and doc strings (mostly by making
comments into doc strings), and it seems pretty awkward to insist on
using different conventions in the two different parts of the same
source file.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-17 14:12 UTC|newest]

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     [not found] <20210912165141.9491.52637@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20210912165143.5BC1E20A5E@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2021-09-12 22:42   ` master ff4de1b: Fix quoting style in Lisp comments Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-13  8:06     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 12:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-14  2:14         ` Phil Sainty
2021-09-13 11:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 11:41       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 12:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 12:36         ` martin rudalics
2021-09-13 16:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-13 18:25             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-15  9:27               ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 12:42                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-15 18:46                   ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 16:02                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-15 16:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 18:07                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-15 18:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 18:20                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-15 21:12                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-15 18:40                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-15 18:52                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-15 20:01                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-15 20:15                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-15 21:24                                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-16  5:08                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 10:39                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-16 12:32                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-16 12:53                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 13:37                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-16 23:20                                           ` Phil Sainty
2021-09-18  0:15                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-16 16:19                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-17 14:12                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2021-09-17 15:58                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 19:21                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18  5:42                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18  8:17                                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18  8:26                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18 13:30                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-18 13:34                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18 16:03                                                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-18 16:13                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18 16:52                                                     ` Drew Adams
2021-09-18 16:54                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-18 17:07                                                         ` Drew Adams
2021-09-16 13:31                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 16:20                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-16 14:15                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 14:18                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-16 15:22                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 16:20                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-17  9:17                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-17 10:26                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-17 10:39                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 22:46                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18  6:19                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18  7:32                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-09-18  8:20                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18  8:37                                                     ` Adam Sjøgren
2021-09-18  8:44                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-18  8:48                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-18 11:50                                                       ` Phil Sainty
2021-09-18 11:54                                                         ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-18 16:03                                                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-18 16:02                                                         ` Drew Adams
2021-09-18 16:02                                                       ` Drew Adams
2021-09-18 16:01                                                     ` Drew Adams
2021-09-18 16:01                                                   ` Drew Adams
2021-09-18  8:17                                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18  8:25                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18  9:18                                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18 11:00                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18 16:02                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-18  9:28                                                   ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-18 10:05                                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18 10:27                                                       ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-18 10:51                                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18 18:40                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-18 18:56                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18 19:34                                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18 23:22                                                                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-19  5:44                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-19 10:00                                                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-19 17:30                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2021-09-19 17:42                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-19 17:54                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2021-09-21 14:38                                                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-09-21 17:04                                                                             ` tomas
2021-09-21 17:09                                                                               ` tomas
2021-09-24 20:42                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-19  5:30                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 10:55                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-17 11:16                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 11:30                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-17 12:11                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 12:30                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-17 16:21                                                     ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-17 16:40                                                       ` João Távora
2021-09-17 16:44                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-17 17:47                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 18:42                                                         ` Yuri Khan
2021-09-17 18:51                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 19:14                                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-17 19:22                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-17 20:32                                                           ` Manuel Giraud
2021-09-17 22:16                                                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-18 13:45                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-18 16:03                                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-18 17:25                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-18 17:46                                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18 23:11                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-18 23:22                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2021-09-19 12:26                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-18  5:43                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18  8:33                                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-18  8:53                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-17 18:09                                                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-17 18:09                                           ` Drew Adams
2021-09-16 16:18                                   ` Drew Adams
2021-09-16 10:50                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-16 11:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 14:12                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-16 16:20                                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-16 16:18                                     ` Drew Adams
2021-09-16 11:25                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-17  0:16                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-17  0:27                                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-09-17  6:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 10:44                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-17 11:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 11:25                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-17 12:09                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 12:38                                             ` Phil Sainty
2021-09-17 12:59                                               ` Tassilo Horn
2021-09-17 15:45                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 13:07                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-17 13:44                                               ` João Távora
2021-09-17 15:49                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 16:33                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-17 18:10                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-17 13:18                                           ` Amin Bandali
2021-09-17 18:09                                       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-16  4:53                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16  8:51                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-16  9:11                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 10:34                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-16 11:35                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 13:38                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-15 18:48                     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-15 19:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16  6:56                         ` martin rudalics
2021-09-16  7:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-16 16:18                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-13 11:51       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-13 12:05         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 12:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 12:29             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-13 12:26         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 12:56           ` Dmitry Gutov

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