From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Feng Shu" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Any new method to deal with Emacs Fonts settings puzzles nearly every Chinese =?utf-8?Q?emacser=EF=BC=9F?= Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:24:33 +0800 Message-ID: <87k0hb5em6.fsf@163.com> References: <2c676019.21d2.17d19ba2dc8.Coremail.tumashu@163.com> <593d0379.21f8.17d19c624db.Coremail.tumashu@163.com> <7b6b298a.222b.17d19d2e110.Coremail.tumashu@163.com> <834k8gxe9v.fsf@gnu.org> <87fss0uixn.fsf@163.com> <831r3kxb05.fsf@gnu.org> <87v90vhmr8.fsf@163.com> <83tugfx1py.fsf@gnu.org> <87y25rfwxi.fsf@163.com> <831r3jw5vr.fsf@gnu.org> <874k8f89zl.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o86nupjl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26878"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Po Lu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 14 09:25:26 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmApK-0006lf-0b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 09:25:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53586 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmApI-0003mU-Su for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 03:25:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59080) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmAoj-00037T-NY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 03:24:49 -0500 Original-Received: from m12-12.163.com ([220.181.12.12]:32819) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmAob-0003UI-Ku; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 03:24:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=163.com; s=s110527; h=From:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version; bh=PIbXs es48Gp4ePZGoiRowMXWlL8Z3u990yHkMCag+rw=; b=qd+9EhJoJzC1uAUNfsNr5 j+AUFBKYB6abbGdxRcBx4kSlXSuTZEQceBjGd+XH+jDWUtPHfE/7No96o0t/HX/Y WwGlZTy0588umFHxqRKot4iUNBZ1R3Lo7U3N1o7TfY4ezp6aK1kn9JCez+HUhmDN 1302oPsYlDF3ns5UlvL280= Original-Received: from tumashu (unknown [49.88.37.140]) by smtp8 (Coremail) with SMTP id DMCowAB3m2nBx5Bhq9pyAg--.30838S2; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 16:24:34 +0800 (CST) In-Reply-To: <83o86nupjl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 14 Nov 2021 10:09:18 +0200") X-CM-TRANSID: DMCowAB3m2nBx5Bhq9pyAg--.30838S2 X-Coremail-Antispam: 1Uf129KBjvJXoW7KF47JrWfXFy8Xw47WF4kJFb_yoW8XF1kpF W7tF1I9rnYyr40qr4xZ3WUZa4S9r4fKrW7Arn5GFyYyFn8WFyIyryxta1F9ryDuw1rur4Y vanrWanrC3ZrZa7anT9S1TB71UUUUUUqnTZGkaVYY2UrUUUUjbIjqfuFe4nvWSU5nxnvy2 9KBjDUYxBIdaVFxhVjvjDU0xZFpf9x07U47K3UUUUU= X-Originating-IP: [49.88.37.140] X-CM-SenderInfo: 5wxpt2lkx6il2tof0z/1tbiSgJL1FPAQaBEXAAAs9 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=220.181.12.12; envelope-from=tumashu@163.com; helo=m12-12.163.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279400 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Po Lu >> Cc: "Feng Shu" , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 15:36:14 +0800 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > Something like that, yes. But mainly I wonder how do other GUI >> > applications solve this. Emacs cannot be the first one to bump into >> > this problem. >> >> They define the height of their bars to some constant value not >> determined by the size of the text. > > What do you mean by "bars"? Do this like box in latex? A box in the TeX term for an invisible container that can hold a visible element. > > And I believe the issue was more general than just the height of the > mode line and the mini-window. The issue was how to make sure the CJK > wide characters take exactly twice the width of Latin characters in a > fixed-pitch font. The height issue is sometimes _caused_ by the width > issue: users specify a larger CJK font to satisfy the width > requirement, and then have the problem with height because of the > larger font. > > So my question was about both issues: the width and the height. The > later should also be solved in the body of the window, not just in > mode-line and header-line parts, I believe. > > If anyone knows or could find out how other applications solve these > issues, it could help us come up with ideas that are not only useful, > but also help users by presenting similar solutions to what they are > already used to. Your are right, the problem is just like you said. :-) --