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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287586 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > That suggests they might have bugs and need maintenance, but it does > not imply they are useless or obsolete. They might be obsolete, or > not. Indeed. There are some very useful packages that aren't maintained anymore (i.e. yasnippet, which hasn't seen changes since 2 years, and has no sign of that changing any time soon.) > > I have found some packages that doesn't even work or rely on some > > features that were obsoleted or removed. I would rather we take a different approach: don't change anything that will break packages on ELPA.