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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID fb0f1f8065fd1ac65c0df015bf7955c3; Tue, 07 Jun 2022 00:43:26 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87bkv527p5.fsf@gmail.com> (Tim Cross's message of "Mon, 06 Jun 2022 23:57:55 +1000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20280 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.185.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic305-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290817 Archived-At: Tim Cross writes: > That 750 key bindings is an extreme over statement and not what is being > proposed. Yet again, people jumping to extremes based on ignorance and > paranoia. Spend the time to go through the key bindings listed in the > org manual and you will soon realise that the majority of those bindings > only come into effect in specialised mdoes - none of which are relevant > to a READM.org ile (for example, all the key bindings relating to agenda > mode). > > I find it odd that someone can on one hand argue so hard against using a > mode based on the complexity and vast nubmer of key bindings and at the > same time admit they have never spent the time to learn the mode. This > seems like an arguument based on fear and uncertainty about something > you don't know rather thaa one based on fact. Perhaps look more closely > at what was actually being proposed (which was not a full org mode > situation) and spend enough time to at least udnerstand the basics > before condemnation. What's more odd is expecting someone to go through the entire Org manual in order to write and edit README files.