From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Akib Azmain Turja Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 18:21:11 +0600 Message-ID: <87k06m55mw.fsf@disroot.org> References: <87edx28cl1.fsf@disroot.org> <83y1v7w6eu.fsf@gnu.org> <83a67iqo1k.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40713"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 02 14:24:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oU5iW-000ANW-2u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 14:24:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42722 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oU5iV-0007f7-2e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 08:24:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55128) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oU5ha-0006rd-Ih for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 08:23:14 -0400 Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:33014) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oU5hY-0006p7-Fe; Fri, 02 Sep 2022 08:23:14 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FEB4005B; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 14:23:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YadpPv0ShgtK; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 14:23:07 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1662121387; bh=Wqi1IvR38/ktwG4BmJN9AkN2ODaRrRiV0QMbU6X+FXU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=I1q/jIe8H6USoJsyqfCvPvgRt3qu+cOETcGfv+4xoqhWVWXomPBJyD2fXYyqCwimN UJrsG7XoIEH3qqb8n2ZjzoZ5kgsSr3GZlWkVmnq/lV4L5YUOKhPjm69W99pfKOwTBK FvqcHypSVoM6ABPEQpmJf20PqSfEpdxz6TFJA8VKwF69jVSc+sKvmwsQc2+e9F+4O2 4/vz4Fwp1GxxMpaBMXyNBeXBRN/B3L+PREoxYoKwLSlshL0FbsXegE2gRRLH4xd+20 ZlKCJ13kwuN63huKfMu4MZ+h8ya3iDVxQuegFi+QemCpwJAyPHNQCLttOn3ZEebq0J QH5Ssl8nPKu9w== In-Reply-To: <83a67iqo1k.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 02 Sep 2022 09:37:59 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.21.23.139; envelope-from=akib@disroot.org; helo=knopi.disroot.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294539 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Richard Stallman >> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2022 19:32:01 -0400 >>=20 >> > Is there a reason why you=20 >> > cannot (or do not want to?) use fbterm? >>=20 >> 1. It will be different >> 2. I don't have any idea how to use fbterm. >> 3. I odn't know what new inconveniences it would cause. >>=20 >> ISTR seeing a discussion about whether fbterm "steals characters". >> I did not follow it because I don't use fbterm. >>=20 >> I would like Emacs to handle nondisplayable characters on Linux >> consoles the way it did a year ago. I am sure that can't be hard. > > I hear you, but I'd suggest that you give fbterm a try. Who knows, > maybe you will find that you like it. > Or even better, install X and a terminal emulator and maximize the terminal emulator window. There are many options, st, XTerm, Kitty, GNOME Terminal, Konsole, etc. Or make Emacs your X Window Manager. There is a GNU ELPA package EXWM for doing that. How about GNOME or KDE? Or even GNUStep? Even better, emulate Linux TTY on GNOME Terminal running on GNOME desktop rendered using Sixels on XTerm. Or the best option, don't use computers at all. There would be no software in your life, so you'll also have no proprietary software in your life. ... OK, just kidding. Now let's come to the point, why switch to fbterm when the Linux console works? The buggy program (looks like it's Emacs here) should be fixed. =2D-=20 Akib Azmain Turja Find me on Mastodon at @akib@hostux.social. This message is signed by me with my GnuPG key. 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