From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2022 01:46:12 +0200 Message-ID: <87k05d25rv.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu4odez7.fsf@gnu.org> <871qrrpkgx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <834jwnbi6c.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtafnun5.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83sfk6ahty.fsf@gnu.org> <8735c6b0wo.fsf@gnus.org> <87y1ty9lha.fsf@gnus.org> <87lepym6ok.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <877d1i9h7k.fsf@gnus.org> <83edvqyr3q.fsf@gnu.org> <874jwl8e4p.fsf@gnus.org> <871qrm2eiu.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40292"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rlb@defaultvalue.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, david@tethera.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 06 01:48:00 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ogE7M-000AE8-DF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 01:48:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44284 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogE7L-0001l7-44 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 19:47:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60392) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogE62-0000zD-Pt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 19:46:38 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:52552) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ogE5o-0005qg-Rr; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 19:46:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iXn5ttpJKRxCPpjrB2/i2doU04WjkWBdIi4CxthkOV0=; b=GXxhQdNCjQzqUltnY1AqFv+8p1 wYQMfbyqzeUzj2sGhxezGONLtr75NTeQ9VTWrX3LYIJnHpsnyK8euOT5GH0R+lnWkwDpfxZQPcv9H ahu0cpf0m+snc1iCmTJuny1Z+qUrRX5X9UAftjY6kGG6ULRBX2XLyfaouEFow5ftKiDM=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=downe) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ogE5e-00058m-8Y; Thu, 06 Oct 2022 01:46:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Wed, 05 Oct 2022 23:40:39 +0000") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEUpXp9HOVSdTC2T sLz////+upoTAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+YKBRcsOpfzvUUAAAF7SURBVDjLZZOBtYMw CEUhLgB0AaELaLP/bp8Xk6j5HLWamweBAtFtLO0nQultYUxK7Brv9SLE6ilwXwA06SdsAVwCZjvt q6KoaHpaQlPZnZNYkZVYBpc8V3ryB2TcimVEWlRQSJ7B1xTVvLibr5mkJxMjVX2C9Koa6oYQZfGU rkKyYCP0dgzwdjKBgFzBOqi1jujStTc4aGsJ0kNSYQfV7TcS41uR4Pic9/muo9WuoR5rWH3Y67RP cMwY+0swJOiWN6BjAKXy/S/IVd1+E/wiWp1RmRIVdb5Yvuwt+XxYYN/eEHa4v8GZ5NcaLlwUIGLL hc8R01yVmwJtUXPD9+rQ0YloodyFsHD11RYjk3ATsuEkL7b+h+NlurdQ0wmCxvaG5jipHGPp4rP9 5GwLPQu1W3HmV3ZsYGjsbixuLYu0MH2xABSCM4476+2KlTEqjAEYvTj6D0ARIft9BflId08BBqzV 1EV4TkA3MxGM56zUFPVpYZaFXLMG0L/+AC9DRuLtWrJJAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIy LTEwLTA1VDIzOjQ0OjU4KzAwOjAwo2tyugAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMi0xMC0wNVQy Mzo0NDo1OCswMDowMNI2ygYAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Gichy Dan's _Beachwood #9_: "Laissez Faire" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297024 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: >>> Also repeatable testing are most likely executed in batch mode and... >>> >>> ...surprise surprise deferred compilation is *already* *disabled* in >>> this mode!! >> >> I forgot to mention that while this is (strictly speaking) true, > > Not sure what you mean by strictly speaking, I think is just true. > >> if the >> --batch Emacs redefines any built-in functions, the trampoline files >> will get written to ~/.emacs.d/eln-cache/. > > Indeed, and I don't find anything surprising with that. I'm sure you don't. But you claimed that --batch was the panacea for repeatable testing -- and it's not, since the second time you run the same test, the trampoline files are created. I.e., not a repeat of the same test.