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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298240 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2022 06:58:02 +0000 >> >> Richard Stallman writes: >> >> > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> > > @node Package from Source >> > > @section Package from Source >> > > @cindex package development source >> > > @cindex package upstream source >> > > @cindex package git source @c "git" is not technically correct >> > >> > That improves the @cindex commands. But please look at the whole >> > manual's index and see where these two show up. If two of them appear >> > close together, there is no need for both. If they are separated by >> > several other commands, then it is useful to have both. >> >> 3 matches for "Package from Source" in buffer: *info* >> 1511:* package development source: Package from Source. >> 1515:* package git source: Package from Source. >> 1525:* package upstream source: Package from Source. >> >> They seem close-by, so I am not sure if it is worth it. > > What's worse, they all point to the same place in the text. > > What I recommend doing in these cases is to reshuffle the words: > > @cindex package development source > @cindex upstream source, for packages > @cindex git source of package @c "git" is not technically correct This looks a lot better: 3 matches for "Package from Source" in buffer: *info* 800:* git source of package: Package from Source. 1513:* package development source: Package from Source. 2083:* upstream source, for packages: Package from Source. > This way, typing "package TAB" will still show all of them, but if > someone thinks about "upstream source", for example, they can type > "upstream source TAB" and find this. That is also good. >> I have to admit that I have never used the concept index directly. > > It is not very useful, except for finding duplicate and redundant > entries.