From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Package "luwak" Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 22:42:54 +0000 Message-ID: <87k02ws0pd.fsf@posteo.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35868"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 12 23:43:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p4rWB-000964-Eu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 23:43:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4rVj-0005Oc-D3; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4rVh-0005Ny-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:42:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4rVg-0008Lm-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:42:57 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12728240104 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 23:42:52 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1670884973; bh=ge4et48otdPo85l3Z+epBBFpzb+kDtptTudSQ3jJPxM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=iZwdMAGMNX4pXcBkSKjUTZbe8+0OurBUpnvnTvJ7WI2HtvGAFgb96kggXRkuLg+HU SlYmlYwGnykmVtfruDPxiIRJQWzxJ/4Xn85FGqh06rR5jrf4h3DwFxQQ0RmPLxkaNg 4KyLwL/kZno/tZgD4fmK9q0oi+6K6Ijiy7BTssqZdE6HxfugZ8ksZhUqQS+sepzmhs eKwABLePiEjbOjfpzzpTY+V7aMOF4NXAyuYvOk7Fma784YJzoxkc8eYzfmuYpRBzjO cXbXsog7gJk4Zm6pHdvvW06oBYGbMqazTCqwcamBTFYRsTGNYqZUTjD/9blQVPYYY2 /jDk9Pf8QgvOw== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4NWGqJ0mYYz6tn0; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 23:42:51 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:19:18 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301286 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > Does anyone have a better name to suggest? > > > Luwak sounds perfect to me. > > I think you are not being serious. If you are, can you explain why > you consider "luwak" better than "lynx"? Honestly, neither of the two is that useful for a modern user (ie. someone who hasn't investigated text-mode web browsers). I still think of the wild cat... That being said, the discussion has been had over and over again, and it always results in more or less the same people stating more or less the same preferences, which is a waste of time because it is entirely unproductive. If this is to be resolved in the long term, I think a naming guideline or recommendations (for ELPA) should be written down. What are a few good examples everyone can agree on, what are a few bad examples, and what makes them bad or good. What attributes does a good name have (e.g. easy to remember, easy to write, unique, leaning on convention and experience, etc.).