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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306038 Archived-At: Payas Relekar writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> Why use the name "Devil" for this? It doesn't seen to explain anything >> about the package's purpose. It is likely to put some people off. > > Every name is going to put someone or another off, can't really help it. > OpenBSD has their daemon and there are already funny anecdotes about it, > but it doesn't hurt anyone. > >> If there is no clear reason why "Devil" is a good name, let's choose >> a better name now. > > As mentioned by Susam in previous mail, as well as the repo README, the > name refers both to 'eVil' (extensible Vi Layer) as well as 'God-mode'. > > The name is distinct, and I like it for what it is. What the package does is not obvious from its name. That's the main problem with it.