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From: "Björn Bidar" <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to make aot native-compilation and pdmp creation reproduceable
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2023 19:53:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jzrvspoo.fsf@thaodan.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837cnvwyiz.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 09 Oct 2023 19:28:36 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
>> Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2023 19:06:41 +0300
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 
>> >> From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
>> >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> >> Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2023 18:25:42 +0300
>> >> 
>> >> > - Executable and pdmp change with every build, independent of
>> >> >   native-comp?
>> >> yes
>> >
>> > You build each time in the exact same directory?  That is, remove the
>> > source tree, recreate it again in the same place under the same name,
>> > and then rebuild?
>> 
>> The builder is recreated on each build. Obs sets up a fresh install in
>> each worker with just the packages required and nothing else but those
>> and the package sources.
>
> I don't think this answers my question.  Are the absolute file names
> of each file in the source tree exactly identical in all the builds,
> including all the leading directories?  If not, that can explain some
> differences.

They are exactly the same. That's the point it was trying to make, each
builder has a fresh set of packages, plus the extracted sources.

>> > I see that you use "make -j4", what happens if you don't use the -j4
>> > option (i.e. build in a deterministic sequential order)?
>> 
>> How should that make a difference?
>
> "make -j4" can compile files in different order, so when file1.el is
> byte-compiled and 'require's file2.el, file2.el may or may not be
> already byte-compiled, so byte-compilation of file1.el may load
> file2.el or file2.elc, thus producing some differences.
OK I try if that makes a difference.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-09 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-07 18:37 How to make aot native-compilation and pdmp creation reproduceable Björn Bidar
2023-10-07 19:27 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-08 20:53   ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-08 20:57   ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-09  4:19     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09 11:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-09 11:26         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09 11:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-09 11:55             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09 12:29               ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09 13:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-09 13:33                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09 14:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-09 14:30                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09 14:48                 ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-09 14:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-09 15:44                     ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-09 14:52           ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-09 15:06             ` Gerd Möllmann
     [not found]               ` <8734yju8ax.fsf@thaodan.de>
2023-10-09 15:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-09 16:06                   ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-09 16:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-09 16:53                       ` Björn Bidar [this message]
2023-10-09 16:40                 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09 17:06                   ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-09 17:19                     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09 18:23                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-10  6:21                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-10 10:39                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-10 11:12                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-10 11:58                             ` Michael Albinus
2023-10-10 12:17                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-10 13:07                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-10-11  9:15                             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-10  8:30                         ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-10-10  9:28                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-10 10:53                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-10-10 11:15                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-10 11:08                           ` Differences in *.elc files (was: Re: How to make aot native-compilation and pdmp creation reproduceable) Ulrich Mueller
2023-10-10 11:51                             ` Differences in *.elc files Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-10 12:14                           ` How to make aot native-compilation and pdmp creation reproduceable Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-10 14:40                             ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-10 14:59                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2023-10-09  4:28     ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-08  7:14 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-10-08 21:38   ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-09  2:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-09  4:25       ` Björn Bidar
2023-10-09  4:46         ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09  5:06           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09  5:47             ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-10-09 11:15         ` Eli Zaretskii

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