From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: emacs -Q option Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:04:31 +0200 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87isighbds.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87ad3y6l2a.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <9003-Thu05Feb2004211456+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <87wu6znx3a.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87wu6yujeo.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87llncn0nx.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1076317681 617 80.91.224.253 (9 Feb 2004 09:08:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 09 10:07:54 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aq7OU-0006wn-00 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:07:54 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aq7OT-0006dk-00 for ; Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:07:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Aq7O0-0005Kl-1o for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:07:24 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Aq7Na-0005Jj-6p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:06:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Aq7N4-0005Cg-Cz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:06:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.33.219.6] (helo=knife.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Aq7N4-0005CY-35; Mon, 09 Feb 2004 04:06:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (80-235-32-31-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.32.31]) by knife.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BC6E401A; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 01:06:22 -0800 (PST) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "09 Feb 2004 17:29:20 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19818 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19818 Miles Bader writes: > Juri Linkov writes: >> This might produce more correct option list but it is much slower than >> current static --help message and should not replace it. > > Is the speed of --help really an issue? It depends on the purpose of --help: seems it is useful mostly when the user wants to start Emacs from the command line and forgets the syntax of some options. In this case the speed of --help is really important for users. However, when the user writes a shell script or makefile with Emacs invocations then it's better to read the Emacs manual with complete documentation of command line arguments. -- http://www.jurta.org/emacs/