From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org
Subject: Re: Documentation for "Clone Buffers" (corrected version)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:02:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ish5jmup.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7jxmw8ec.fsf-monnier+emacs@asado.iro.umontreal.ca> (Stefan Monnier's message of "15 Mar 2004 08:27:31 -0500")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> I added FORK argument not to all Info navigation functions.
>> Now I will add it to all of them.
>
> I think this is the wrong approach. We want a generic way to do "a fork"
> without having to change each and every command where it might make sense.
> And I now regret having abuse the C-u prefix for that. It should be some
> other fork-specific prefix instead so the command can still use C-u for
> its own purpose.
The Emacs Info browser can be compared to Web browsers where links
can be opened in a new window/tab either by the New Window command
(usually bound to C-n) with an initial content of the current page -
this is very similar to Emacs's clone-buffer (M-n), or by pressing
Ctrl key while clicking on a link - this is similar to Emacs's C-u
prefix. But AFAIK none of Web browsers provide this functionality
(pressing Ctrl key) for other commands (like Back, Forward, Home).
Perhaps, clone-buffer (M-n) should be a primary method for forking
a new Info buffer. It's as simple as using C-u prefix.
>> IIRC, the "controversial" feature you refer to was guessing the target
>> place within an Info node from the reference name. While I agree that
>> this is an unreliable feature, it's still better than simply placing
>> the point at the beginning of a big Info node. Another alternative is
>> to use anchors, but it places responsibility on authors of Info
>> manuals to define correct reference points. If using anchors is
>> accepted solution then at least all Emacs manuals should be revised
>> to find all such references that refer to big Info nodes and to make
>> anchors for them.
>
> I think your solution is at least as good as the current situation,
> and sometimes much better.
There are some references in Emacs manuals that refer to the middle
of a big Info node but use neither anchors nor reference names. We
should decide which is the preferred method of reference and change
them for all such cases in Emacs manuals.
--
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/
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2004-03-05 10:05 ` Documentation for "Clone Buffers" (corrected version) Alan Mackenzie
2004-03-09 15:40 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-10 11:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-03-12 5:12 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-12 16:34 ` Karl Berry
2004-03-14 2:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-14 7:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-14 18:17 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-14 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-14 18:37 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-14 19:58 ` Karl Berry
2004-03-15 3:14 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-15 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-15 23:35 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-16 5:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-15 23:41 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-16 12:09 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-14 13:39 ` Karl Berry
2004-03-14 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-15 4:57 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-12 5:22 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-12 1:24 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-15 5:05 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-15 13:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-15 17:06 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-15 17:08 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-16 7:02 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2004-03-12 2:45 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-09 23:40 ` Alex Schroeder
2004-03-12 10:57 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-04-25 4:32 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-25 13:37 ` Karl Berry
2004-06-17 16:33 ` C-h C-i Juri Linkov
2004-06-17 10:29 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-18 7:16 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-18 8:18 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-18 14:55 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-18 12:33 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-18 19:00 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-19 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-19 0:19 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-20 0:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-20 1:17 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-20 1:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-20 1:51 ` One possible bug-tracking system Karl Fogel
2004-06-20 13:23 ` Alex Schroeder
2004-06-20 12:42 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-20 19:39 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-06-20 13:38 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-21 9:31 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-21 9:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-22 23:17 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-21 12:02 ` Arne Jørgensen
2004-06-22 23:16 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-21 18:26 ` Karl Fogel
2004-06-21 22:28 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-22 2:00 ` Marcelo Toledo
2004-06-22 23:17 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-20 19:18 ` C-h C-i Richard Stallman
2004-06-20 20:47 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-06-20 23:15 ` Juri Linkov
2004-06-20 23:37 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-06-22 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-22 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-21 5:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-22 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-22 5:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-26 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-06-22 2:04 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-06-22 23:17 ` Richard Stallman
2004-06-18 21:51 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-14 21:55 ` Documentation for "Clone Buffers" (corrected version) Stefan Monnier
2004-03-16 12:09 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-15 6:28 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-16 19:03 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-10 3:37 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-10 18:45 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-10 18:45 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-11 14:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-03-14 5:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-14 9:48 ` David Kastrup
2004-03-14 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-16 12:09 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-15 18:18 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-15 5:18 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-15 6:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-15 13:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-15 14:35 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-15 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-15 20:40 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-03-15 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-16 19:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-16 7:05 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-16 19:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-18 7:21 ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-19 5:01 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-18 18:37 ` Karl Berry
2004-03-18 18:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-19 14:11 ` Karl Berry
2004-03-19 17:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-21 4:58 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-19 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-19 17:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-19 17:47 ` Karl Berry
2004-03-20 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-21 5:00 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-21 6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-22 5:24 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-22 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-22 5:24 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-22 6:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-23 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-21 17:18 ` Karl Berry
2004-03-22 5:25 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-22 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-23 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-23 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-23 6:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-24 5:34 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-22 16:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-22 16:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-23 0:20 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-03-23 2:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-23 6:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-20 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-20 18:01 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-19 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-19 15:15 ` Karl Berry
2004-03-20 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-20 14:15 ` Karl Berry
2004-03-20 15:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-20 19:27 ` Miles Bader
2004-03-21 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-22 5:25 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-22 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-21 5:00 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-21 6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-20 18:01 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-21 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-22 5:25 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-22 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-03-15 4:56 ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-10 18:45 ` Richard Stallman
2004-02-25 10:15 Alan Mackenzie
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