From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: printing most-negative-fixnum fails Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 23:03:59 +0300 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87isexbgpd.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <200405062008.i46K8x4R015248@brains.moreideas.ca> <87vfj3g1kv.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <8765b2g9x5.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200405141146.UAA17752@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084651781 22856 80.91.224.253 (15 May 2004 20:09:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 20:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, emacs@whaite.ca, Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat May 15 22:09:35 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BP5TT-0002Cf-00 for ; Sat, 15 May 2004 22:09:35 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BP5TT-0002vl-00 for ; Sat, 15 May 2004 22:09:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BP5QF-0001jD-I1 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 16:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BP5Ps-0001ix-Gg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 16:05:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BP5PM-0001fg-Jl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2004 16:05:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.33.219.6] (helo=knife.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BP5PM-0001fc-6Q; Sat, 15 May 2004 16:05:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (80-235-40-24-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.40.24]) by knife.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F48E4087; Sat, 15 May 2004 13:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 15 May 2004 04:53:48 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23508 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23508 Richard Stallman writes: > A simpler idea: we could make C-j on that make-char expression do it. > C-j could look at the expression to be evaluated, and if it is a call > to make-char, it could show the character (in the same way it does > now). Even simpler idea: if the value will be printed in three basic representations (decimal, octal and hex), then to see a real character the user can type somewhere one of these numbers with a C-q prefix depending on the value of `read-quoted-char-radix'. BTW, there is one bug with `read-quoted-char-radix': typing `C-h v read-quoted-char-radix' displays the *Help* buffer which says that `read-quoted-char-radix' is defined in `custom'. Typing RET on a reference signals an error: "Cannot find definition of `read-quoted-char-radix' in library `custom'" This is because `read-quoted-char-radix' is defined by `custom-declare-variable-early' which incorrectly associates it with `custom.el', even though it is defined in `subr.el'. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/