From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (aset UNIBYTE-STRING MULTIBYTE-CHAR) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:49:25 +0900 Message-ID: <87ir0sqpcq.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <871w7g91dz.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <874pcctqtm.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87r6fg735c.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87odakqqtn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202953791 15492 80.91.229.12 (14 Feb 2008 01:49:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Kenichi Handa , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 14 02:50:14 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JPTEs-00017W-4M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:50:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPTEO-0005Ry-FI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:49:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPTEK-0005Pu-5M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:49:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JPTEI-0005Ph-5S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:49:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JPTEH-0005Pe-Uz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:49:38 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPTED-0006R8-TE; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:49:34 -0500 Original-Received: from 203-216-97-023.dsl.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.97.23] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1JPTE8-0006nm-TH; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:49:28 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AB69C2FF7; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:49:25 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:40:27 -0500") Original-Lines: 17 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89026 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > While I don't consider Python as the best design by far (the lack of > type system rules it out right away), Elisp's dynamic scoping mixed with > buffer-local and frame-local and terminal-local variables is pretty > horrendous, Hey I didn't make any claims about elisp's variables (or elisp at all for that matter...). Python is far from being the _worst_ language out there. Still, the phrase "damning with faint praise" comes to mind... -Miles -- Infancy, n. The period of our lives when, according to Wordsworth, 'Heaven lies about us.' The world begins lying about us pretty soon afterward.