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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89393 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Stallman writes: > > The standard convention when reading a value in the minibuffer is t= o put > > the default value in the prompt and make it available for editing by > > M-n. > > First, if we have three different notations, why this one should be > preferred as the default one? > > Because I made the decision that way. This is a general policy > I have adopted for Emacs. > > What format the input should have is a separate question. My question was about the three different notations for file modes, and why this one (-rwxrwx-wx) should be preferred as the one to express the default value. I wasn't questioning the way values are entered in the minibuffer at all. I was referring to what you call the format. =2D-=20 | Micha=EBl `Micha' Cadilhac | La culture c'est comme la confitur= e, | | http://michael.cadilhac.name | c'est meilleur avec du pain. = | | JID/MSN: | -- MOI59 = | `---- michael.cadilhac@gmail.com | - = --' --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHuPUcUJhDmOfFA3URAhl/AKDdIblkCj7Q2R1j+/dittMIoZC2agCfRmNB 65wGwu/7kzw84dcFmYm2Als= =inzU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--