From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Diffs between %s and %s end here Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:33:02 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87iqzwzysx.fsf@jurta.org> References: <18370.47294.641890.556694@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18371.9275.720477.806834@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <2vzltos6g1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <18371.49683.356527.589505@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <18377.55334.203888.524043@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <434pbqcaz5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <200803021853.m22IrRvA000730@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803031858.m23IwToH009344@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803041839.m24Idmis008291@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200803052150.m25Loonc011429@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <85pru5m2ut.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205012176 32372 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2008 21:36:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, Richard Stallman , nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, Miles Bader To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 08 22:36:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JY6ie-00083Y-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:36:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JY6i5-0004AM-Jg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:36:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JY6i0-000476-8b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:36:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JY6hx-000448-NR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:35:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JY6hx-000445-Ik for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:35:57 -0500 Original-Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.201]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JY6hj-0006PC-DG; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:35:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JY6hY-000ELZ-FI; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:35:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <85pru5m2ut.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:29:14 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 69470ef176344869aa12c1af2e75e870 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2372 [Mar 7 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 11 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91781 Archived-At: >>> If there is no other reason for its removal, we should put it back in. >> >> Please don't (at least provide an option to turn it off). >> >> When I produce a diff before committing a change, I often want to make >> sure the no unintended/other changes crept in. I expect to see >> exactly the diffs, not some disturbing additional lines. Even after >> seeing it several weeks (but not using diff very frequently), I still >> found it distracting.[1] > > Maybe we should put informational messages like that as an (evaporating) > afterstring overlay on the final LF character? That way they would not > be copied anywhere. I think this is a good idea: this footer will be still displayed but not copied or saved. But please don't use such overlays for compilation buffers - they are not like diff output. After saving and later visiting the old compilation output it is useful to see the overall status of the compilation at the end of the saved output file. Also it is useful to see how long the full compilation took time (by subtracting times at the beginning and the end of compilation) to make estimation how long the next compilation will take time. However, nothing like this is necessary for diff output which I think should have no additional text appended in the saved file. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/