From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Earl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Bazaar repository Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:08:54 -0600 Message-ID: <87iqzr1a8p.fsf@workhorse.earlhome> References: <87skyvse7k.fsf@xmission.com> <87skyvmfi0.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205384955 19631 80.91.229.12 (13 Mar 2008 05:09:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:09:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 13 06:09:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZfhC-0001pH-Bb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZfgd-0002HN-0g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:09:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZfgY-0002GR-Nq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:08:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZfgX-0002El-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:08:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZfgX-0002EQ-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from out01.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.231]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZfgX-0004O2-2S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:08:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [166.70.13.201] (helo=mgr1.xmission.com) by out01.mta.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1JZfgZ-0004uL-71; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:08:59 -0600 Original-Received: from jearl.fttp.xmission.com ([166.70.233.10] helo=workhorse.earlhome) by mgr1.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1JZfgV-0003MZ-4N; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:08:55 -0600 Original-Received: from jearl by workhorse.earlhome with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JZfgU-0002a3-H9; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:08:54 -0600 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwCAAAAAByaaZbAAAACXBIWXMAABKbAAASmwHgklkM AAABz0lEQVRIx5VW2bHDIAz0jPtRS+pxG1E/fEUHhzjeC2EcJ8JZ0LFa80AkrrgB6L/0K0ypc3Y9 UqYh0I9eOtzG8hwPdkARJiJmOQBk20Ft0OuDcANA/78jdpd2AL99sFy4NDbQLVrsCbAEXYA3DVzE 8D/gkNbJpZsdhHMMN2kdAOKrSo8ttNZrTrYdnEgVweWu0p5b5vjrwSXxoSv73dIibaoSu/4u/vyB sxyD/9YCiE7IRrOP9M4uSK1OrcgOkANA2+PVBsHfQU8AbafRH8e0LoBUSDn2w+JiJiOXi6AngBx7 erYTF42M3wDYAFvH/erSGlNZg/7q0s9pLR1xLNyJGqo8xo2Qzm918AW0etoeQcMHldaDz43STnru k9Lo3XslGgeLidQ/Is0l3bJKkDQ71L7GZGY8DqlEF4l4oSQRMIBQT5JnadSSom8nmZEk/xxinLSR XcgoUyHhbQ8DZHZh1la298tKDaF5ZhXjjd6YALvczwB1SX4CWOGWGGRySQ79kGesmtNLUdOUFkDU gceCp9cuEj6ogYbgqHSzyYW59MKY9EUDqbrTyyGF6eiA2g+6gtoUZKr90A8jlXzL4STZTz3aoN3Q zkNx7unnn3YC+gA3WfRuzLleFgAAAEV6VFh0Q29tbWVudAAAeNpT8MxNTE9VSE/NSy1KLElNUUiq VHD3C1Vwz8gvLilOLsosKFHQSEkty0xOtS3Iyy1KLNfkAgDinBJPV21RsgAAABp6VFh0SlBFRy1D b2xvcnNwYWNlAAB42jMEAAAyADKxisffAAAAInpUWHRKUEVHLVNhbXBsaW5nLWZhY3RvcnMAAHja M6wwBAABtwDbWB23uwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== In-Reply-To: <87skyvmfi0.fsf@red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:09:43 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Received-SPF: neutral (mgr1.xmission.com: 166.70.233.10 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of xmission.com) client-ip=166.70.233.10; envelope-from=jearl@xmission.com; helo=workhorse.earlhome; X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 166.70.233.10 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jearl@xmission.com X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa01 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:44:12 +0100) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mgr1.xmission.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:92372 Archived-At: Karl Fogel writes: > Jason Earl writes: >> bzr clone http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/trunk/ > > By the way, strongly suggest a dest name after that: > > bzr clone http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/trunk/ emacs-bzr > > or something. Probably no one wants their local clone directory to be > named "trunk" :-). > > -Karl Thanks to some pointers from Jonathan Lange I have updated the instructions at: http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/ for using this repository to strongly emphasize getting the tarball of the shared repository. If you really want to play with this your first step should almost certainly be: wget -c http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs.tar.gz (or get the lzma compressed version if you'd like). There are more instructions on the web site. There are two reasons for this. The first is that the process that I use to update the repository from CVS apparently shifts some of the packs around. Unless you have a very fast connection and you time things just right you are very likely to end up in a situation where your client bzr is looking for pack files that have moved on my server. This will cause the client to abort. That's not a big deal if you are just trying to pull down the last 20 changesets or so. Issuing another "bzr pull" will fix the problem in a couple of seconds. If you are 95% of the way through pulling down the 97000 or so changesets in the trunk, then you'll probably be unhappy. There probably is a better way to update the repository so that this doesn't happen, but I am still figuring some of this stuff out :). The second reason is that you can't really evaluate the usefulness of Bazaar without using a shared repository. Jason