From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs (HEAD) crash on M$ (XP) built with MinGW Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:28:19 +0900 Message-ID: <87iqrcf83g.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225247066 2207 80.91.229.12 (29 Oct 2008 02:24:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 03:25:27 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kv0kP-0006OS-Oi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:25:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46136 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kv0jI-0002PT-CE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:24:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kv0jE-0002OM-5w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:24:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kv0jC-0002NA-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:24:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40939 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kv0jC-0002N7-KB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:24:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:45688) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kv0j9-00070M-Tt; Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:24:08 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6AE800D; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:23:59 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 289371A2D9A; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:28:19 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" 83e35df20028+ XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105121 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > I can not try to reproduce it, as I don't have Lucida Sans Typewriter. > > Neither do I (it's an Adobe font that needs to be purchased). Probably not. In my experience, while Adobe legal has been more than obnoxious in protection of "their" "property", Adobe technical is generally sympathetic to the idea that open standards imply "open source" implementations, and that if free implementations exist, it's better for them to be good ones. Probably all you need to do is write to Adobe, explain that their product has been implicated in a crash of FreeType (not just Emacs), and request a complimentary copy for development purposes. Surely somebody on this list has an acquaintance at Adobe, who will see that this makes sense and vouch to whoever needs to sign off that (a) they aren't going to get an additional sale by withholding this copy and (b) Emacs developers aren't going to go around infringing copyright by redistributing it. If not, a message from Stefan or Yidong as maintainer should do the trick.