From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-n and C-a Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:45:02 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87iqnv2xk5.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87bptqywpq.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87skn1fxaw.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233424825 29232 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2009 18:00:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 31 19:01:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LTK9g-0000vd-Tg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:01:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTK8O-0003Yg-Gt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:00:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTK7e-0003H8-3V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:59:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LTK7a-0003Fu-EO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:59:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35457 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LTK7a-0003Fq-7y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:59:10 -0500 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]:58460) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTK7Z-0000hx-Oa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:59:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LTK7V-0002kb-UX; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:59:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:20:21 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 1678f860418e8694a064f05d5e21ded6 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108465 Archived-At: >> word-wrap-mode > > But this is a misleading name: the issue is not how lines are wrapped > but how motion command behave. So visual-line-mode is a much better > name in this respect. visual-line-mode is no less misleading - in addition to enabling visual motion commands it also enables word wrap mode. And there is no way to enable visual motion commands without enabling warping text at word boundaries. These are two separate features amalgamated into one mode. I think we should provide a way to toggle them separately. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/