From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Case mapping of sharp s
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:43:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iqd6gmpk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvskcai43z.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org
Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:
>> Actually I think there is something simply wrong with the simple
>> search, as it's much slower even for single chars (where bm doesn't
>> have any advantage) and additionally in some weird random fashion
>> it's again slower for backwards search, such as 14, 37, 66 ... 94
>> secs, where the bm takes 0.5 secs and simple forward constantly
>> ~3.7 secs, all for isearch'ing one character in a 100Mb file.
>
> I can guess why it's much slower going backward: the simple search
> operates on chars rather than bytes. The internal encoding we use
> (currently based on utf-8) is designed to be easy to parse going forward
> but not so easy going backward (IIRC our encoding is actually even a bit
> more painful in this case than pure utf-8).
I don't think so. The utf-8 _scheme_ can be used to encode 21bits in 4
characters. We stay within that range, in the utf-8 4 character scheme,
but outside of the Unicode range 2^20+2^16.
> BM on the other hand works on bytes, so there's no such slowdown.
With utf-8, I think that apart from character ranges, search forward and
backward should work perfectly like on 8-bit characters. Exception is
incomplete character matches, but since the utf-8 scheme can immediately
tell "is a 7-bit character" "is the first character of a multibyte
sequence of length n" "is last or intermediate character of multibyte
sequence" this is not a serious problem.
> But maybe we're doing something silly somewhere.
The Emacs 22 multibyte scheme likely had worse properties for reverse
searching. So maybe something might be simplified nowadays.
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-19 22:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-19 19:48 Case mapping of sharp s grischka
2009-11-19 21:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 22:43 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2009-11-20 2:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20 8:03 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-20 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20 3:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20 4:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20 7:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 0:02 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-21 12:39 ` David Kastrup
2009-11-21 17:40 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 2:58 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22 4:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 8:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 1:30 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-21 22:52 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-20 8:10 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-20 11:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20 14:43 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21 4:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-19 23:25 ` grischka
2009-11-20 2:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21 3:08 ` grischka
2009-11-21 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 9:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 11:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 15:33 ` grischka
2009-11-21 10:41 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-21 11:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-21 17:01 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-22 12:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-22 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-24 12:26 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-24 19:23 ` grischka
2009-11-25 2:13 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-26 13:07 ` grischka
2009-11-29 22:03 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 1:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-30 1:28 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30 1:36 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-30 7:01 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-30 12:01 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 13:09 ` martin rudalics
2009-11-30 21:57 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-30 22:34 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-12-01 0:02 ` Juri Linkov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-15 14:29 Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-16 12:06 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-16 16:38 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-17 7:36 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 21:23 ` Reiner Steib
2009-11-16 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-17 7:43 ` martin rudalics
2009-11-17 7:49 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-17 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18 1:00 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18 4:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-18 5:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-18 6:26 ` Kenichi Handa
2009-11-18 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 19:05 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-11-19 1:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-19 1:57 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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