From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a menu item for htmlfontify-buffer to File menu Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:20:12 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87ipzx8i5f.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <20101112.230457.419777345042583664.yamato@redhat.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289917257 26327 80.91.229.12 (16 Nov 2010 14:20:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:20:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 15:20:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIMOr-0000ZQ-RU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:20:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47900 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIMOf-0002HJ-Q8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:20:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49122 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PIMOa-0002G9-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:20:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIMOY-0006Yn-97 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:20:27 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:59682) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PIMOX-0006Yf-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:20:26 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PIMOW-0000Vc-99 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:20:24 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:20:24 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:20:24 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ULCDI0hM4c3hyE2aQ8AoOVBG2tc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132709 Archived-At: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:36:59 +0200 "Andrew W. Nosenko" wrote: AWN> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 23:03, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> How do you think adding a menu item for htmlfontify-buffer to File menu? >> >> I agree that it should be reachable from the menu.  OTOH that File menu >> has already too many entries to "print". >> >> Maybe that Print subsection should be put into its own submenu, or maybe >> we should have just "print buffer" and "print region" and then prompt >> the user about how she wants to print (just print, to ps, to b&w ps, to >> html, younameit). AWN> Excuse me, but convert to html is not a print. It's... hmm... convert :-) AWN> Convert to html, convert to postscript, convert to pdf... Or export, AWN> if you prefer that name. But not a print. AWN> May be in English the word "print" has some other additional sense, AWN> unaccessible to me, but in Russian "to print" ("вывод на печать", AWN> "напечатать") has only one sense: make a hardcopy. I think the proper verb is "render" and not "convert" or "export" or "print," because the original is not in a markup format. If it was, "convert" or "export" might be appropriate. But there's strong precedent in English for "print" to mean "output" in computers. So it's not a terrible verb choice IMO. Ted