From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Merging Org 7.8.02 before Emacs 24.1 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:44:56 +0800 Message-ID: <87ipl3g4jr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877h1ncs1u.fsf@altern.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1324885515 23240 80.91.229.12 (26 Dec 2011 07:45:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 07:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Jambunathan K." , schulte eric , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 26 08:45:11 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rf5F8-0003jD-PF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 08:45:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41735 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rf5F7-0001Il-Va for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:45:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60159) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rf5F5-0001Ge-6y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:45:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rf5F4-0007HW-06 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:45:07 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:42714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rf5F3-0007GY-Th for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:45:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [155.69.16.4] (port=38652 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rf5F2-0003Bf-Ag; Mon, 26 Dec 2011 02:45:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: <877h1ncs1u.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Fri, 23 Dec 2011 14:54:05 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146969 Archived-At: Bastien writes: > 2. New Babel syntax: Eric Schulte went through a rich discussion with > the Org Mode folks to simplify the syntax of code blocks. Releasing > Emacs 24.1 with the old syntax would expose many users to bad habits > and force us to strongly suggest using latest Org instead of the one > that comes with Emacs. No one would benefit from this. Please provide some more information about the plan for Org development. Suppose we merge 7.8.02 into trunk; what assurance would we have that, within months, the Org team wouldn't switch tack and "strongly suggest" the latest Org containing yet more features, rather than 7.8.02? That would defeat the purpose of a feature freeze.