Emacs Conf

Emacs Conf

[Aleksandar Simic]

Hello all,

first time posting to the list.

Sorry about the broken thread:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2012-12/msg00169.html

Quick summary regarding the conference:

I have a venue and I started to contact some of the people who made
the proposals here:

http://emacsconf.org/

If you've 'subscribed' there, I'll update you as well once I have a
full list of speakers.

My motivation is not financial to get this organised.

If you have any questions (or complaints), feel free to contact me.

Thank you,
Alex

Re: Emacs Conf

[Bastien]

Hi Alex,

thanks for organizing this.

Do you have a date or a date range for the conf?

If you need help, what can we do?

All best,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Emacs Conf

[Aleksandar Simic]

Hello Bastien,

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> thanks for organizing this.
>
> Do you have a date or a date range for the conf?

Date range I'm aiming for: March 2013. But that will depend if the
speakers can make it. The venue will hold about 100.

> If you need help, what can we do?

Thanks for the offer!

Let me see what response I get back from the people that wish to speak
and take it from there. I'll update the list in a day or two with the
progress. If this is not desired (as in, inappropriate for this list),
please let me know, as I don't wish to step on any toes.

Alex

Re: Emacs Conf

[Glenn Morris]

Aleksandar Simic wrote:

> Let me see what response I get back from the people that wish to speak
> and take it from there. I'll update the list in a day or two with the
> progress. If this is not desired (as in, inappropriate for this list),
> please let me know, as I don't wish to step on any toes.

I'll bite and say that I don't see why an Emacs user conference
should be discussed on the development mailing list (rather than the
user mailing list). 

Re: Emacs Conf

[Xue Fuqiao]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:34:08 +0000
Aleksandar Simic <asimic@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me see what response I get back from the people that wish to speak
> and take it from there. I'll update the list in a day or two with the
> progress. If this is not desired (as in, inappropriate for this list),
> please let me know, as I don't wish to step on any toes.

Maybe you can discuss it on news:comp.emacs or #emacs @ irc.freenode.net.

-- 
Best regards, Fuqiao.

Re: Emacs Conf

[Sam Steingold]

> * Glenn Morris <etz@tah.bet> [2012-12-11 15:49:33 -0500]:
>
> Aleksandar Simic wrote:
>
>> Let me see what response I get back from the people that wish to speak
>> and take it from there. I'll update the list in a day or two with the
>> progress. If this is not desired (as in, inappropriate for this list),
>> please let me know, as I don't wish to step on any toes.
>
> I'll bite and say that I don't see why an Emacs user conference should
> be discussed on the development mailing list (rather than the user
> mailing list).

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I will bite too:
because chances are the speakers will be the developers. :-)

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Re: Emacs Conf

[Bastien]

IMHO the best solution is be to set up a separate mailing list for the
conf - for people interested in speaking, attending and/or helping.
This list would be advertized once here and on help-gnu-emacs@ and 
other places (IRC, etc.)

Alex, can you set up such a list?  

If needed, I can setup one and make you an admin.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Emacs Conf

[Stephen J. Turnbull]

Glenn Morris writes:

 > I'll bite and say that I don't see why an Emacs user conference
 > should be discussed on the development mailing list (rather than the
 > user mailing list). 

Well, it would be nice if a few developers showed up.  Go to PyCon or
RubyWorld and compare attendance at non-Guido[1]-developer and
non-Matz-developer presentations to attendance at J-Random-User
presentations.  Bastien (as an Org-Mode developer) would be a draw,
DAK (as AUCTeX-Czar-Emeritus) would be a draw, but Stefan or Yidong
would be 5 times the draw, and Eli (w32stuff) or Miles (lexbind) or
Mike A (TRAMP, dbus) or Glenn Morris (who dat?! :-) might bring in 2X
as many people.

Agreed, developer invitations might be best handled with direct
negotiations off-list.  Maybe one explicit CFP here.

Footnotes: 
[1]  Ie, a core dev != Guido van Rossum.  Wouldn't be at all fair to
compare Joe Shmoe to the BDFL, and you probably can't get RMS at a
random Emacs user conference anyway -- but if even 200 people show at
one, I bet he'll be there the next year!

Re: Emacs Conf

[Bastien]

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:

> Agreed, developer invitations might be best handled with direct
> negotiations off-list.  Maybe one explicit CFP here.

Actually, if RMS Stefan and Chong could attend, this would be a
HUGE plus, both for other developers and for users.

A *rare* occasion to say thanks.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Emacs Conf

[Ivan Kanis]

Hi Alex,

I am glad to put a name on who is behind your web site ;)

You might see that I am organizing a small meeting end of June in
Stockholm. That has nothing to do with your conference.

Aleksandar Simic <asimic@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me see what response I get back from the people that wish to speak
> and take it from there.

I can help you contact potential developers for a presentation if you
would like.

For myself I can present org mode with Getting Things Done.

> If this is not desired (as in, inappropriate for this list),
> please let me know, as I don't wish to step on any toes.

help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org is probably a better place.
-- 
Ivan Kanis
http://ivan.kanis.fr

The mind is its own place, and in itself
Can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.
    -- John Milton

Re: Emacs Conf

[Bastien]

Ivan Kanis <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com> writes:

>> If this is not desired (as in, inappropriate for this list),
>> please let me know, as I don't wish to step on any toes.
>
> help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org is probably a better place.

For announcing events, yes; but for organizing them, I *really*
suggest using a dedicated mailing list.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Emacs Conf

[Aleksandar Simic]

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
> IMHO the best solution is be to set up a separate mailing list for the
> conf - for people interested in speaking, attending and/or helping.
> This list would be advertized once here and on help-gnu-emacs@ and
> other places (IRC, etc.)
>
> Alex, can you set up such a list?
>
> If needed, I can setup one and make you an admin.

Hello Bastien,

if you wouldn't mind, I'd appreciate that :)

Thank you,
Alex

Re: Emacs Conf

[Xue Fuqiao]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:14:57 +0100
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:

> For announcing events, yes; but for organizing them, I *really*
> suggest using a dedicated mailing list.

I agree.
-- 
Best regards, Xue.

Re: Emacs Conf

[Bastien]

Hi Alex,

Aleksandar Simic <asimic@gmail.com> writes:

> if you wouldn't mind, I'd appreciate that :)

Here you go:

http://lists.hugadev.com/listinfo.cgi/emacs-conf-hugadev.com

I submitted a request for a gmane group too, I'll tell you
when it's up and running.

You can advertize it anywhere.

Best,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Emacs Conf

[Karl Fogel]

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
>IMHO the best solution is be to set up a separate mailing list for the
>conf - for people interested in speaking, attending and/or helping.
>This list would be advertized once here and on help-gnu-emacs@ and 
>other places (IRC, etc.)

+1.  

But FWIW I think even after this is set up, it still would be
appropriate to post occasional announcements about the conf over here on
emacs-devel -- for example, when dates/location are finalized.

RE: Emacs Conf

[Drew Adams]

> But FWIW I think even after this is set up, it still would be
> appropriate to post occasional announcements about the conf 
> over here on emacs-devel -- for example, when dates/location
> are finalized.

And on help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org (users, not just developers).
And perhaps on info-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, which is for announcements.

IOW: Discussion about organizing the conf on the dedicated list.  Announcements
to other lists where subscribers might be interested in knowing about the event,
but not necessarily interested in helping organize it or even necessarily
attending it. 

Re: Emacs Conf

[Aleksandar Simic]

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
>> But FWIW I think even after this is set up, it still would be
>> appropriate to post occasional announcements about the conf
>> over here on emacs-devel -- for example, when dates/location
>> are finalized.
>
> And on help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org (users, not just developers).
> And perhaps on info-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, which is for announcements.
>
> IOW: Discussion about organizing the conf on the dedicated list.  Announcements
> to other lists where subscribers might be interested in knowing about the event,
> but not necessarily interested in helping organize it or even necessarily
> attending it.
>

Hi all,

the list is here:

http://lists.hugadev.com/listinfo.cgi/emacs-conf-hugadev.com

Twitter info here: https://twitter.com/EmacsConf

I won't post to this list/thread regarding the organisation of the conf.

There might be single email in future with any announcement, but that's it.

Thank you all
Alex

Re: Emacs Conf

[Bastien]

Hi Alex,

Aleksandar Simic <asimic@gmail.com> writes:

> I won't post to this list/thread regarding the organisation of the
> conf.

If you don't mind, I will.

Let's gather people on the dedicated list, get organized 
there, then I'll forward any important progress.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Emacs Conf

[Xue Fuqiao]

On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 09:53:40 -0800
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

> And on help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org (users, not just developers).
> And perhaps on info-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, which is for announcements.

And perhaps here: http://savannah.gnu.org/news/?group=emacs
And EmacsWiki is also a good place.
-- 
Best regards, Xue.