From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package.el + DVCS for security and convenience Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:50:08 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87ip7i1gbz.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <8738zf70ep.fsf@riseup.net> <871uejlbm1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87obhmzl2f.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <20121222141742.7494b429fe36e5ccef50cf6f@gmail.com> <87d2y2w9j5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wqwas0gr.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87d2y2p6d7.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87sj6xg9p2.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87k3s78hsc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874njbuen3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bodg7v1t.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d2xwtcqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ip7i5v2k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ehi6cshp.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1356961826 16923 80.91.229.3 (31 Dec 2012 13:50:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:50:26 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 31 14:50:43 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TpflH-0002mQ-MI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:50:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44432 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tpfl2-0002oq-UC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:50:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tpfky-0002nb-R2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:50:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tpfkx-0005Gf-Lh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:50:20 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38869) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tpfkx-0005Er-FE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:50:19 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TpflA-0002hR-A3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:50:32 +0100 Original-Received: from c-65-96-148-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([65.96.148.157]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:50:32 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-65-96-148-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:50:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-65-96-148-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xrw/V29GImh4h2Qo6JZPm4nkfd0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156029 Archived-At: On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:32:02 +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: SJT> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> Similarly, Emacs needs a secure way to get data in and out of that >> storage from external files or data. Depending on an external binary >> tool, *long-term*, to provide this transfer is IMO a poor security >> decision for a platform such as Emacs. SJT> Yeah, well, aren't you the guy who put just such an external binary SJT> tool into Emacs, aka gnutls? The GnuTLS libraries are not an external binary tool. Do you mean `gnutls-cli'? SJT> The question is whether dynamic linkage is any safer than using the SJT> command line interface. You should ask a security expert. Ted