From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:01:11 -0400 Message-ID: <87ip4110p4.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> References: <20130401202613.0b4201e3@anarchist> <87li91nmhp.fsf@gnu.org> <87ip45hseu.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9pg7mxg.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <8738v75me0.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365278690 30351 80.91.229.3 (6 Apr 2013 20:04:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 06 22:04:47 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UOZJg-0001Uu-J7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:02:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44728 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UO88t-0007vI-77 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:01:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49640) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UO88j-0007v3-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UO88g-0004xg-NR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:01:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vb0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c02::231]:33196) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UO88g-0004xX-IO; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:01:14 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 11so2194300vbf.22 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:01:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=z+fD3fLauPw4COambrlkKq3oc66cISAK4ODNYFwv+k4=; b=sY3WLBk7IsUFQje9SE5ibo3H6w2VuALF8ySNb/ZzxxgUy2R+4v1keQ/LMeaOV+c6gb vt96JdD01gIGHfephR7Ia9n6GxwgT5WfZcdEKNi8xQ1KIYAdHG7TXxpWG19C15u9paW0 KcTEN+tQJanf3QtlgBchraSw1uBKBdcIK0vcqthEfffskNJHrnZ+xRMNXq01aZ2cdUUU LXJg3yb99flDDxmMI0cz6LiaP6hT6OY40SvASon7l76dIoDgVeYeEPTzt5WD+HjTg/GA o6mZtK4HCL4jhVCYPsEKVh4VU4MQFbRltOUicdwXZ4Jb75OP7ooHkYn89YuvHbXJRsiR skNg== X-Received: by 10.220.221.210 with SMTP id id18mr8322429vcb.74.1365174074073; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from floss.red-bean.com ([74.113.160.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qq6sm13921254vec.2.2013.04.05.08.01.12 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Apr 2013 08:01:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 04 Apr 2013 22:09:29 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158726 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: >We don't insist that every GNU package follow every one of these >rules. Bazaar already had a site and there was no reason to insist on >moving it. The site that Bazaar had when it became a GNU project was not this site. It was either bazaar-vcs.org or a predecessor domain. Later, *after* becoming a GNU Project, they moved their home page to canonical.com, instead of choosing something at gnu.org. Naturally, this causes me to ask in what sense they are meaningfully a GNU project!