From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Yet another discussion on improving the first time user experience Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:39:09 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87ioxqshzj.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <523ED74D.4030205@online.de> <87ioxs4zc9.fsf@informatimago.com> <87k3i8vj93.fsf@yandex.ru> <83bo3kk6hh.fsf@gnu.org> <87eh8gzee5.fsf@yandex.ru> <87eh8g2kdl.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380014529 25547 80.91.229.3 (24 Sep 2013 09:22:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pjb@informatimago.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 24 11:22:11 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VOOot-00080p-2n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:22:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44538 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOOos-0006KL-Lb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:22:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47993) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOOol-0006JF-2q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:22:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOOof-0006Xh-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:22:03 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:54024 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOOoX-0006Jx-Ct; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 05:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.jurta.org (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E99D258B9E935; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 02:21:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87eh8g2kdl.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:10:46 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 69.163.218.105 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163590 Archived-At: > there needs to be a "theory of the keymap" for CUA as powerful > as the theory provided by the traditional Emacs bindings which > extends CUA to cover the editing features provided by Emacs. In fact, Emacs bindings already extend CUA: in addition to such CUA bindings as C-x cut and C-c copy, shifted variants S-C-x and S-C-c pass their bindings to the default prefix map. Also like M-f that moves forward one word and C-M-f that moves forward one expression, the keys M-right and C-M-right extend CUA to do the equivalent. Also M-backspace kills one word backward while C-M-backspace kills one expression backward, oops, it kills X :-(