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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: trunk r116285: * lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el (lisp-completion-at-point): Symbols don't start
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:47:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ioslaepv.fsf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871tz995bl.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:55:42 +0100")

Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> writes:

> Whether a macro evaluates arguments isn't a question of obfuscation.
> Depending on circumstances, it's a necessity.

When a macro doesn't evaluate an argument, most of the time it's to
introduce a new local var, or define one or several globals.

IOW, please provide an example of a popular macro that isn't `defadvice'
where this will be a problem.

> I really don't think this is a good idea.  This would break completion
> inside macros.

Only in some, ill-behaving ones.

> In any case, there are symbols I want to complete that
> are not boundp, like keywords, tags, faces etc, also when they appear in
> quoted structures.

Have you tried the patch? When you're inside a quoted structure, any
kinds of meaningful symbols should be offered as completions.

> `lisp--form-quoted-p' does only work inside balanced
> parentheses.

Example?

I don't see any problems if some parens are missing after point.

> IMHO, having some false positives is less problematic than
> breaking completion in some cases.

"Some"? Emacs has about as much functions as variables, not to mention
faces, features, etc.

On average, in non-quoted forms more than half of completions are false
positives.

> Maybe consider making the behavior customizable, so everybody can get
> what he wants.

Maybe. But see the beginning of this message.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-11 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1WBHeS-0000wr-6k@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2014-02-06 13:41 ` trunk r116285: * lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp.el (lisp-completion-at-point): Symbols don't start Dmitry Gutov
2014-02-06 22:00   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-07  3:16     ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-02-07 13:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-11  3:43     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-02-11 12:55       ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-02-11 14:47         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2014-02-12 11:14           ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-02-13  5:13             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-02-13  7:36               ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-02-13 13:33               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-14  3:48                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-02-12  1:42       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-13  5:21         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-02-13 12:56           ` Michael Heerdegen
2014-02-13 14:32             ` Dmitry Gutov

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