From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 12:34:12 +0000 Message-ID: <87iogw7y2j.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87fvc858c6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ioh4nf8k.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83y4pzptpx.fsf@gnu.org> <871tnr1gqo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83bnmvowdb.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppbanqhe.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbl2xigp.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83ioh2nlow.fsf@gnu.org> <87sig6xech.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvc5ni0u.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31fwwyv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnmq9ibf.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87wq5c8ybo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <874msg2qnf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zja81420.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419770076 20622 80.91.229.3 (28 Dec 2014 12:34:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 12:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 28 13:34:29 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5D3E-0003oE-MX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 13:34:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58231 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5D3D-00083s-B6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:34:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54419) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5D39-00080v-KK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:34:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5D38-00029V-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:34:23 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:48102 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5D33-00027s-C1; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 07:34:17 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 20FCFAC068B; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 13:55:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA7FE608A5; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 12:34:12 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <87zja81420.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Sun, 28 Dec 2014 11:06:47 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180745 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > As another data point: quite a few people here claimed that Texinfo=C2=A0= 5's > drop of compilation speed was a deal breaker for them. > > Compilation speed. And you are working on a replacement for an > interactive application that is supposed to tie into one's editing > workflow. And it is supposed to tie into Emacs workflows by engaging an > Emacs-based HTML browser. > > That's a long long uphill battle. So one should very much focus on > thinking about game-changing workflow features implementable in the HTML > backend that are not accessible from Info. I don't really get this. We're not replacing texinfo. We're replacing Info. We're replacing Info so you can generate documentation in multiple authorial formats, easily write converters for your authorial format of choice into one Info and have it displayed the same. So I don't think compilation speed is much of a problem. It won't change as a result of what I do. I would hope to alter the EmacsLisp texinfo generator as an initial POC for rms' objective #2 - "Something to generate HTML-Info from Texinfo input" Nic