From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 21:44:54 +0100 Message-ID: <87iog9f5x5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <54B1B97E.9070204@gmail.com> <87fvbhk4ha.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B456C8.6010506@gmail.com> <8761cbhvhb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54B5AA10.7080606@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421276281 4773 80.91.229.3 (14 Jan 2015 22:58:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 22:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jcb62281@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 14 23:57:56 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YBWst-00013a-SY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 23:57:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48450 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBWst-0000Nr-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:57:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49403) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBWsq-0000Lx-Ai for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:57:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBWso-0007dH-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:57:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBWso-0007dD-Ne for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:57:50 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56606 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBWsf-00038q-7G; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:57:41 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 36A5FE048C; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 21:44:54 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 14 Jan 2015 14:43:58 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181267 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > It has been a while since I last read through the FSF GPL FAQs on this, > > so maybe copyright has been weakened, but I thought that dynamic linking > > does not avoid the GPL. > > Our position is that dynamic linking makes a combination covered by > the GPL -- provided the code _as distributed_ is designed for linking > the parts together. > > Combinations that the user decides to make, which are not prearranged > by code that gets distributed, are not limited by the GPL. This is > true regardless of how the parts get linked. > > > Could Emacs require plugins to state compliance with the GPL in order to > > be loaded, like GCC requires? > > If Emacs supports plug-ins, it should definitely handle this as GCC does. If our only option to combine Emacs and GCC is to implement this in a manner where neither GCC nor Emacs can be considered a separate application any more, then we won't be combining Emacs and GCC. Copyright can be made to cover extensibility. But it will stop at interoperability of preexisting applications. -- David Kastrup