From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving browsing and discoverability in the Packages Menu Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 21:22:13 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87iocrmw56.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87r3rhoexe.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87twwdm40x.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429492969 12975 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2015 01:22:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 01:22:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 20 03:22:41 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yk0Q5-0007I1-C4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 03:22:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51507 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yk0Q4-0000RW-Kk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 21:22:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41081) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yk0Ps-0000RG-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 21:22:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yk0Po-0005V5-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 21:22:27 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44077) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yk0Pn-0005UA-QY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 21:22:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yk0Pj-00073a-VP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 03:22:20 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 03:22:19 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 03:22:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mDOHA1PhF0mgpuFPgfAN++jXvWc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185683 Archived-At: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 09:12:28 -0700 raman wrote: r> I meant something light-weight like "helm-" as a prefix. I didn't mean r> we'd use these "bundles" to install a bunch of packages at one shot -- r> that would creat bloat as you say. I meant it purely as a means for r> reducing the number of entries in the packages buffer. Oh, that's just a tree widget then, with the branching determined by node names. I don't think the current `tabulated-list-mode' supports a tree, and writing a new `tabulated-tree-mode' is probably better than trying to retrofit trees into lists. I'm still not sure hiding helm-* under a single helm header would be useful. It feels artificial. It's probably better to distinguish between a "plugin" for a package (which you do want to group under it) and an "extension" to a package (which may or may not merit its own top-level position). Ted