From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Disabling visual lines for macros Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:33:55 +0100 Message-ID: <87io43jl7g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20151209163954.0cefcc7f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87si3bcltu.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <20151209180343.5a67c0e7@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r3iu9rvp.fsf@gnu.org> <20151210120051.6be8201f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87k2omciy2.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <20151210123312.39c417c9@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83lh929omw.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2omta6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d1ue9lns.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuzat7ot.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <837fkm9ire.fsf@gnu.org> <20151210151631.3b07c461@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <87twnqrqgx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9jqrpa9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20151212115115.1ffeb422@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449965566 27742 80.91.229.3 (13 Dec 2015 00:12:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Wiegley , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Perry E. Metzger" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 13 01:12:45 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7uHM-0000vG-KO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 01:12:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53452 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7uHL-0004j8-Pq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:12:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60769) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7uGi-0003wi-D9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:12:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7uGh-0003IH-Ic for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:12:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7uGg-0003I3-8y; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38513 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a7uGc-0006Vm-66; Sat, 12 Dec 2015 19:11:58 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B0CB8DF509; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:33:55 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Sat, 12 Dec 2015 15:01:27 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196190 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: > This should be done first anyway, by David, to test whether it's as > useful as he thinks it is. Otherwise, we're just debating an idea > without facts. We don't even know if this would address any of the > performance issues raised by this thread. The "performance issue" should be beside the point. However, I rather doubt that if the performance issue was related to visual line movement that the keyboard macro in the test did the same job as the Emacs competitor: visual line movement would likely cause the results to differ even when run in two frames with different fonts and/or frame width in the same Emacs session. -- David Kastrup