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From: Aaron Ecay <aaronecay@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
Cc: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>,
	Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>,
	Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>,
	emacs-org list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 23:19:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87inou7r7s.fsf@trex> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3k29bjomb.fsf@stories>

Hi Lars,

2017ko urtarrilak 31an, Lars Ingebrigtsen-ek idatzi zuen:
> 
> John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> We're moving toward a future where Emacs.git will represent "core
>> Emacs", and only contain what core needs (plus a few historical bits,
>> I'm sure). There should be no argument for keeping a project in core
>> just to gain auxiliary benefits.
> 
> I'm massively unenthusiastic about this future.  Things in ELPA has to
> be backwards-and-forwards compatible with a wide Emacs version range,

This seems like a technical limitation of ELPAʼs current implementation,
rather than a conceptual impossibility.  If ELPA made available (on the
server for downloading, and in the client for installing) old versions
of packages, then users could always be offered the latest compatible
version, but not later incompatible ones.

Developers would have to be a little more diligent about declaring their
packagesʼ dependencies on emacs major versions (or on other packages, if
they depend on parts of core that have migrated to ELPA), but this would
be a small hurdle.

Aaron

PS Speaking of dependency management, Iʼd be more worried that this kind
of approach will accelerate the advent of dependency hell with ELPA
packages...but I think all package repos have to confront that problem
eventually.  So Iʼd file that thought under “inevitable growing pains”
rather than “arguments against”.

-- 
Aaron Ecay



  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-31 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 16:39 Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Kaushal Modi
2017-01-25 16:54 ` Rasmus
2017-01-25 20:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-26 13:45     ` Rasmus
2017-01-26 14:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-26 15:01         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 15:39           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26 16:01             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 16:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-29 19:06                 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-26  6:19   ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26  8:26   ` Michael Albinus
2017-01-29 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30  1:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-30  7:47   ` David Engster
2017-01-30 15:59     ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30 18:51       ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-03  2:01         ` John Wiegley
2017-02-04 16:30           ` David Engster
2017-01-30 19:28       ` David Engster
2017-01-30 21:52         ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 14:22           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:08             ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 15:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:31                 ` David Engster
2017-01-31 15:33                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 21:55             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-01 15:09               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-01 18:48               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 23:19             ` Aaron Ecay [this message]
2017-02-01 18:51               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-01 23:21                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-02 14:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 15:45           ` David Engster
2017-02-02  2:56             ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:09                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 14:34                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:57                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-02 14:23                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-02 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 17:47                   ` David Engster
2017-02-02 20:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 20:57                       ` David Engster
2017-02-02 21:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 14:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:55                 ` Using CEDET modules from Emacs core John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-05  7:40                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:15                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  3:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 16:00                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 22:51                           ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-14 23:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-15  1:15                               ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-02 16:30               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? David Engster
2017-02-02 18:17                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:54                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:05                   ` David Engster
2017-02-05  9:03                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-05 15:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 16:59                       ` David Engster
2017-02-05 20:36                         ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-06 22:03                           ` David Engster
2017-02-07 17:18                             ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:46                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 15:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-12 22:22                         ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-12 23:13                           ` John Wiegley
2017-02-13 19:35                             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-13 19:48                               ` [OT] What's wrong with Gnus citations? Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-13 20:57                                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-14  3:26                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-14 14:59                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-13 20:56                               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? John Wiegley
2017-02-12 23:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 14:42         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <WM!417e241b26f9ffab5c4a5fb52e8ccb8dd78efd1b242df281924e708a87f0c07486b9d0c1eee555fb39c40d66f9d657b3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-02-06 10:00     ` [O] " Phillip Lord
2017-02-12  2:22       ` John Wiegley

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