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[76.28.41.155]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x1sm5782817qti.91.2017.12.16.14.34.22 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 16 Dec 2017 14:34:22 -0800 (PST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2017 16:26:57 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221156 Archived-At: On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 16:26:57 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: >> I had some followups, last one: >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-07/msg00617.html RS> I looked at the old conversation. It was said that the name RS> gnus-cloud.el was a joke. I asked, what is the joke, and no one said. RS> Now that the file is installed, I can look at it. I don't see RS> anything in the file that is evidently a joke. What is the joke? I think the main joke is that it's the kind of cloud that the GNU project might produce. But it's only funny until we start analyzing it. RS> Back then, you said, RS> OK, I'll let you and Lars and the maintainers figure it out. Let's do RS> the rename, if that's the decision, after the current gnus-cloud code is RS> reviewed and merged, or it will get confusing (because the feature RS> branch currently removes the old gnus-sync.el). RS> That time has now arrived. I don't see a discussion between you and Lars and the maintainers. Please come to an agreement with them. My vote is for the Silly Party. RS> The file starts with this: RS> ;;; gnus-cloud.el --- storing and retrieving data via IMAP RS> So how about renaming it to gnus-imap.el? That name is clear and fits RS> what the program does. RS> Or perhaps gnus-imap-sync.el; it would say more about what functionality RS> the file provides. I'd like to avoid pinning the name on IMAP, that's just a storage backend. Ted