From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RFC: Adding BBDB to Emacs core Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:21:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87in8f8wuw.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87lgdpphmm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sh7mjd7d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87lgddgaga.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87bme8b7u9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <65ee99c7-6c45-e477-d34b-8efb1aa4712d@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524647996 7886 195.159.176.226 (25 Apr 2018 09:19:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:19:56 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 25 11:19:52 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fBGac-0001wK-GR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 11:19:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35371 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fBGcj-00056e-Ef for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 05:22:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35598) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fBGcY-000555-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 05:21:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fBGcU-0000pK-LV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 05:21:50 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:43393) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fBGcU-0000p4-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 05:21:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7WQ4+wYAvad1Nzd4j7RR/CZX3F2uuAnVQyDEBoiw+hA=; b=0T2HuwkzY7lw72/QTOoZb9i/E BqSyuLB6vM/GQ7sjVklK8bcP96qg5ct618zJQQgUhruUojfx8T1GsMfghoiie82l6YL+HM9DGmGdQ Yk4mfmi9MCcyAj9R+gIt6KXdJyp8eRpFNe2KmalhVcxst+sOtqxeaG1ZIR1kObPjPRtxOJhdiNBF3 IvjrpSPuVVwJnW7eSHnY3B9sve6mCLbi8wyjb2XJViI47lTt2EIN2X5sCaOS0Vo26/fIXPtxKAsdr mSq8ynl3BagNht9N4MxbaFVBloC62M7/OAmHBieTrr8ohAcd+NgyvtOknNcsFUKqOKJptw0tjYtfN yIfXlA7Qw==; Original-Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-124.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.124]:52168 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fBGcR-000awz-Fo; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:21:43 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:50:02 -0400") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224864 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> It's a tradeoff, though, as the runtime logic makes the code harder to >> maintain and (particularly) to test, and at some point it becomes more >> trouble than it's worth. This is why Gnus dropped support for Emacs >> 22 a couple of years ago. Even if ELPA packages should work on current and >> previous Emacs versions, today I would think that they shouldn't have to >> worry about porting to Emacs 23 or earlier, and that a package's maintainer >> can determine whether the cutoff is 22, 23, or even 24. > > Of course, but that doesn't mean there needs to be several different > supported versions of the package. It just means you drop support for > old versions, as is the case in all packages. Nothing new here: no need > for different branches in elpa.git to go along with branches in > emacs.git just because of that. If we support old versions, checkpointed at a particular time in history, then would end up supporting tags. If we support tags, then we support branches, if I understand git. Phil