From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." 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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::343 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242709 Archived-At: On 24 Nov 2019, Richard Stallman wrote: > > Whereas in most other projects both the repository and the bug tracker > > the public and visible, and easy to observe that development work is > > going on, recent reports are being handled, meaning they are welcome, > > and whatever grievances the user has have the possibility to be fixed. > >This is an argument that users often would _like_ to look at the bug >tracker. They don't _need_ it, but having it would motivate them. > >This suggests that we do want a web interface to the bug tracker. >But we don't have to replace the bug tracker. A web interface to it >would do the job. > >How hard is it to add that on top of Debbugs? I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but it might be useful to do so again as a reply to your question above: There was apparently a project to do this, some years ago: https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2007/DebbugsWebUI At that time, Stefano Zacchiroli offered to help. It was discussed on the Debian Devel mailing list, starting here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/03/msg00362.html To: Debian Devel ML Subject: co-mentor for a GSoC proposal wanted: debbugs web submission From: Stefano Zacchiroli Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:28:11 +0100 Message-id: <20070315182811.GA19407@takhisis.invalid> And it looks like some progress was made. According to... https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2008/DebbugsWebUI https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2009/DebbugsWebUI ...the code had been at this now-obsolete URL: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/bts-webui/ However, I am unable to find that code on salsa.debian.org (the GitLab-based replacement for alioth) now. I tried these searches: https://salsa.debian.org/search?search=bts-webui https://salsa.debian.org/search?search=bts https://salsa.debian.org/search?search=webui https://salsa.debian.org/search?search=debbugs Does anyone know what happened with that project? It might be a good starting point now. Best regards, -Karl