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[180.150.91.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c201sm15856331pfb.216.2020.09.15.19.49.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 19:49:46 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52c; envelope-from=tecosaur@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x52c.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255816 Archived-At: Alfred M. Szmidt writes: > Why is the initial release important? I included this as the more modern editors (to me at least) seem to have a different 'look' (subjective, culmination of visual factors). > You are getting quite concrete -- you say "bluey tones" and how colors > match each other. What does bluey tones mean? Do you have a > suggestin how the mode-line could match the background better? - Bluey :: I picked background tone colours and looked at the HSL value. If the Hue lay within the region of Blue, I designated the theme to be "Bluey". NB: Sublime and Intellij should have their 'Bluey' values swapped in the table I provided - Status bas matching background :: When the colour lightness (HSL) is only slightly off the bacground, and the same colour. E.g. Emacs has a difference of 25, Atom has a difference of 4, IntelliJ 9, N++ 5. > Dark vs. light default is not interesting, since I would assume that > the light theme would also have a "modern" appeal for users. Well, this seems relevant to the discussion as I assume editors chose light/dark for a reason. In the case of companies like MS probably market research. > My question was what color and possibly font (to keep the list of > things small) differences exist between emacs and what some consider > modern coloring. Font is harder, but one could look a bit more at the colours for sure. If we start looking at colour palettes though, top themes on extension marketplaces are probably relevant. Let me know if there's anything else of interest, Timothy.