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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: arnold@tdrhq.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/16] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 10:20:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87im9llfhh.fsf@catern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r1o9imtb.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@catern.com>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, arnold@tdrhq.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
>>  dgutov@yandex.ru, rms@gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:11:31 -0500
>> 
>> > But OTOH, referencing buffer-local values through BVAR is now slower,
>> > about twice slower, I guess?  For example, the display code has 90
>> > uses of BVAR, and they will now be slower.  I wonder what that means
>> > for us: we are making let-binding of local variables much faster, but
>> > "punish" the code that just accesses these variables in our inner
>> > loops.
>> 
>> Yes, it's probably a trade-off.
>
> In fact, the current code is slow only when the buffer that's current
> at the moment of the let-binding doesn't have a buffer-local value for
> the variable.  Because if the current buffer does have a local value,
> the let-binding simply changes that single local value.

Just for the sake of completeness, note that set-default is also slow -
it's changing the default that's slow, which is done by both let-binding
without a buffer-local and set-default.

Lisp code is much less likely to call set-default in a tight loop, of
course.  Speculating wildly, maybe that's why this implementation was
chosen in the first place - the idea that it's fine for it to be slow to
change the default, since that should be a rare operation...



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-01 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-14 16:34 ido-switch-buffer is slow with many buffers; others are fast catern
2020-11-14 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-14 20:06   ` sbaugh
2020-11-14 23:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-14 23:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-15  0:19   ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-15 15:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-15 20:49       ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-15 23:58         ` Arnold Noronha
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 00/10] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER (Was: ido-switch-buffer is slow) Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 17:29           ` [PATCH 00/10] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22  2:34           ` [PATCH v2 00/16] " Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 01/16] Add a test for let-binding unwinding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-30 17:31                 ` Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 02/16] Assert not local-variable-p after setq in let_default binding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:54               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 03/16] Stop checking the constant default for enable_multibyte_characters Spencer Baugh
2020-11-25 20:57               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 04/16] Take buffer field name in DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 16:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 05/16] Add BVAR_DEFAULT for access to buffer defaults Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 06/16] Use bset_* functions instead of BVAR Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 07/16] Take offset not idx in PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 08/16] Combine unnecessarily separate loops in buffer.c Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 09/16] Add and use BUFFER_DEFAULT_VALUE_P Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 10/16] Add and use KILL_PER_BUFFER_VALUE Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 11/16] Assert that PER_BUFFER_IDX for Lisp variables is not 0 Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 12/16] Rearrange set_internal for buffer forwarded symbols Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 13/16] Get rid of buffer_permanent_local_flags array Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 16:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 17:39               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 14/16] Remove unnecessary Qunbound check Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 17:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 15/16] Remove local_flags array in struct buffer Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 20:04               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 17:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  2:34             ` [PATCH v2 16/16] Remove usage of buffer_local_flags Spencer Baugh
2020-12-01 18:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 11:19             ` [PATCH v2 00/16] Speeding up DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-11-22 16:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 16:28               ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 17:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-29 17:41                   ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-30 18:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-30 20:11                       ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-30 22:10                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-30 22:26                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-01 15:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 15:56                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 15:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 15:20                           ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2020-12-01 16:01                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 16:16                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 18:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 20:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 01/10] Take buffer field name in DEFVAR_PER_BUFFER Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 02/10] Add bset_save_length and use it Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 03/10] Use bset_last_selected_window everywhere Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 04/10] Use bset_enable_multibyte_characters everywhere Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 05/10] Add BVAR_DEFAULT for access to buffer defaults Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 06/10] Disallow using BVAR as an lvalue Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 07/10] Reorder buffer.h for upcoming rework of BVAR Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 08/10] Make cache_long_scans buffer-local when setting it Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 09/10] Access buffer_defaults in BVAR if there's no local binding Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 18:08           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-19 18:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 15:38         ` [PATCH 10/10] Don't iterate over all buffers in set_default_internal Spencer Baugh
2020-11-19 18:21           ` Stefan Monnier

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