From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug archiving policy Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 12:08:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87im99536d.fsf@bzg.fr> References: <20201206092641.xv5gkqcwbpc5gau7@E15-2016.optimum.net> <20201206101445.qvlefrucfbgi7ods@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26255"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Stefan Kangas , Emacs-Devel List To: Boruch Baum Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 12:09:54 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1knJpa-0006jT-5q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 12:09:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34526 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knJpZ-0004e5-8H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 06:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41040) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knJoN-0003lk-7q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 06:08:40 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38796) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knJoM-0001hl-T9; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 06:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:e35:2fe1:f780:e235:5de0:2430:12a3] (port=40988 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1knJoB-000452-Ge; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 06:08:30 -0500 Original-Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9B5FD1A60DA0; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 12:08:26 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20201206101445.qvlefrucfbgi7ods@E15-2016.optimum.net> (Boruch Baum's message of "Sun, 6 Dec 2020 05:14:45 -0500") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260643 Archived-At: Boruch Baum writes: > On 2020-12-06 03:52, Stefan Kangas wrote: >> (Cc to Bastien.) >> >> Although the org-mode maintainers do read emacs-devel and bug-gnu-emacs >> with some frequency, most subscribers are not org-mode experts. >> >> I would therefore recommend sending org-mode patches directly to the >> org-mode mailing list: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org. This makes sure it is >> seen by the competent and helpful org-mode hackers. In most cases, I >> don't think there is any need to also open a bug against Emacs. > > Your comments were points of discussion in the org-mode thread that I > referenced. See there, but in part, that list requires one to first > subscribe and become a member in order to post to the list, which is a > barrier to entry for bug reporters not committed to be developers or > insiders, and the method is inconsistent with other parts of emacs-core > and thus unexpected for users. The thread also addressed issues of > maintainabilty, bug-tracking, and other useful and constructive > comments. Do see there. I agree we should remove this barrier, thanks for insisting on this. -- Bastien