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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262458 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: > That's a pipe dream. My announcement back then was: > > Note that horizontal scrollbars are turned on by default on all builds > that support them. This is the only way I see to get them at least some > initial coverage. If you utterly dislike them (or do not use scrollbars > at all) please use the idiom > > (when (fboundp 'horizontal-scroll-bar-mode) > (horizontal-scroll-bar-mode -1)) > > I intend to disable horizontal scrollbars by default in the next weeks. > > What could I have done more? Hm. I must be missing something -- I skimmed the (quite long) "Changes in frame/window code" thread now, and I don't see any push-back on this? Just a lot of discussion about various glitches on various systems (which you seemed to fix very quickly)? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no