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Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:08:17 +0000 Message-ID: <87im6revhq.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6s6bkrg.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtw6bkjo.fsf@gnus.org> <838s7qbjn2.fsf@gnu.org> <87eehi820x.fsf@gnus.org> <83v9at9xel.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnv8xlqa.fsf@gnus.org> <838s7o9g90.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7698"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 16 19:09:06 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4mY-0001v7-HF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:09:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58844 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4mX-0002dO-Hm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:09:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56978) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4lt-0002CJ-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:08:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x429.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::429]:42065) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lC4lq-0005Aj-F6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:08:25 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x429.google.com with SMTP id r21so14264216wrr.9 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:08:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tcd.ie; s=google21; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=ZH1BFrrA3Bqe2P0/3bKQZlOoCahinx5ssDyz3/Ek/H0=; b=FrPWxygyOgOLLbXE28bv6gOEuTvUszg7zuFlGWVUDXdQ4TslO15eGM4G8JXzJZdAtJ kWardPKH+jODUnyilU0aEHKezu3/aZbCi6ifAJsQPDQSSCOgXVETZICcpQCaErg38023 hWZKnho6+32F7Tf3YqDTTDS80LaHebMLakYUR340jymGNf1kcbeoAnJYT5DbuUZmZp5X QMcMSVsfgT0UTcnSFBeitdJNqnoyZ4IkCvzACeFadm/MGO4lRF4ABML81h5CN+6ejKxa RTWRp+C6K8HIOUxyWvoD3aZBa9cqspbgHVT0ygEwmlIH8in4AI6ctLXb3lJxyPOm0LWD qsJg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=ZH1BFrrA3Bqe2P0/3bKQZlOoCahinx5ssDyz3/Ek/H0=; b=VRppRPElJa3yd0liK5HvuGVpus8XUQVhfJeq642BgpcahFMeNLRXzYrgZ4WaPjqY3L /iztaEgtkkCYWptgq6d6gj+UXLi03nZ0DE8m9oZMCCkL/vaDtj4I15h3UewSr5FKIH0Y ogcLgzbbDXGMBLlVodjfB+PCwdTxG4OJYAPvA1ewTNSUIWrp/SmeY1cxFyNpwNYnjrjT IDbeNourdWZXAPdFDx3HcuNCtUzdGlrZBfr92ilIC7WMJ+TlmP14XKk09uXyu8BRjIF6 8vwXuxjnkuCY+dZPo34nubNr964RzLHQvvCkL+8A9PneefPJ702eb1CxjbevhnXrspSd ofXA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530r5QxLRQcnGEySlGNvypj3Ssv4tB4QiaxWyYWprN1kgYuE8lKw TSJ1MW91D5yKKjZJ4mrxW49o1g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzA9WWz3LWW2mZXNfkjJzIjXZtpOYfnB+tVrJFcjEytGDqEIz8pYkIXUngxjyOTMihpYoMlKA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:f64c:: with SMTP id x12mr16731685wrp.59.1613498900236; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:08:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([2a02:8084:20e2:c380:f410:82e8:3a21:eedf]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o25sm5830763wmh.1.2021.02.16.10.08.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:08:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <838s7o9g90.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:36:27 +0200") Received-SPF: none client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::429; envelope-from=contovob@tcd.ie; helo=mail-wr1-x429.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264905 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:04:13 +0100 >> >> This thread is only about this theoretical new command. > > Then how about if we stop mentioning M-x in this thread? It is > utterly confusing to mention M-x when we actually are talking about > something else. Some of the suggestions voiced here made me nervous > because I thought people were suggesting changes in how M-x works; now > I'm relieved to learn that no change to M-x's MO was meant. Hasn't the default M-x behaviour already changed thanks to read-extended-command-predicate? IIUC, this theoretical new command would be like that, but it would additionally exclude commands that don't have an extended interactive spec. Is that correct? -- Basil