From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:36:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87im5jexje.fsf@gnus.org> References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3de3d30abf1@heytings.org> <8735wnjsum.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg4n9jei.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2efhx3e.fsf@gnus.org> <838s6f9g5d.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2efgg3w.fsf@gnus.org> <271290d7aa7534d15b42@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27104"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 21:37:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lORIq-0006vR-2U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:37:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50442 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lORIp-0003uT-3g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:37:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lORHc-0002uh-NK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:36:16 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:36788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lORHb-0004jx-41; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 16:36:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hS6am9u56iB0Kk/umJItPJ2sm5SRJ4SB9XCstTV1u1I=; b=jE2fKvqi9jiqa1BqLStddoGldt FIWw4J4AKmJTXi8xqmcwZegHc1zQuFcftGM/wjTwpLtoPbuczaOHrwK3ScouPgwOcPJrhBTbnIJKA 4sjedgf0pHzNoyxJQr1AyKbz8iciSDbnMXxPedXemSX9zdpbyjnoNVAAC7AfCHVZgAgE=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lORHT-0001vE-Dp; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:36:11 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEX38OGzhHqZaWPR p6I8Jif///9pXq4yAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+UDFhQiOsIexjwAAAGlSURBVDjLdZQN lusgCIWdZhZQNBsQs4AYZwGvlP2v6V38iWnmDOc0bf2AKyhxDuaZiELGp1TDV3YDhFJBFmZWYR0g lB0A3p6bNRCx5EoF1RZqqQ5bcos9c/OP/gQ7AHyzqJ+pOggjEzyoA2i7sYztje0aKDUgv0w643ER BwirGihlvwLLsm4VuG4THNLq2JcJrrZ0jc3AXvblF6gtQfQfoLg8szXwQiHwP2s/I6Tuan9I1PQR IdYr536URYrP6QTawENhonwB0TTcI3lDGiZ4EX4dHq7Bb5InEJToDn0XFHMkmkCZk/vWt1X59QGQ rWwAVUkuoNnL/n2zFfMJpINwB/q0MmfEeoKIQn/gl25ANo5prSXeNNT2B+O7BpK1rvwCMXMNvQMp zNsFNHVZhRKu9AWUDhKxlxoSGngfLVMgmwA/mgOwwEsCkUlztJAujrOolxOziROgCZ6HPEup2TFn tJ7g38EAbQsfQL8oLaXXSH6m0kRxAL2KW2qMTQO1KXbDW0twzfI8GHV4UTxbrzCXeXbN3gcdiA3y xp05t+yjuymTH+v6H3YVq1Wo0B4DAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAzLTIyVDIwOjM0 OjU3KzAwOjAwF14DAwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMy0yMlQyMDozNDo1NyswMDow MGYDu78AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Tuxedomoon's _Ship Of Fools_: "A Piano Solo" In-Reply-To: <271290d7aa7534d15b42@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Mon, 22 Mar 2021 20:22:44 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266822 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: > That's unfortunate, but I see your point. A few voices who complain > loudly without even trying things are, alas, enough to prevent > progress. Excessive volume does not influence anything (in the direction the voices want to go). At least not for me; quite the opposite. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no