From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Stepping Back: A Wealth Of Completion systems Re: [ELPA] New package: vertico Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:27:16 +0000 Message-ID: <87im4gaq63.fsf@posteo.net> References: <9c9af088-580f-9fb1-4d79-237a74ce605c@inventati.org> <874kgkxxs0.fsf@posteo.net> <87blamp5hy.fsf@posteo.net> <87h7k0c7tz.fsf@posteo.net> <83a6psq932.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1171"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 21 12:28:42 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lZA65-0000Ac-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 12:28:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36756 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZA64-0003tt-9s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 06:28:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZA4u-0002aj-Cu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 06:27:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:37539) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZA4n-0004F8-VJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 06:27:24 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C5B4240029 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 12:27:17 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1619000837; bh=WycnPEn/KYmiuFDe68yIJKE4vPJSb24vNv3rp8wJm0k=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=JX8+yayK+9FpxCVRjjhT+ZtbxYenMwNdN0NhVp/sGh3R4j+cv6KJB6dL/4dMqF/+Y dYH5XITpF5FeHLU+585q2Gj8D/gcRHAc5ArH8NmLevl77Gvu9C405s8rVd6JUT4JZl 76VORcpKbOcpyT4kWcPWiLEOF26RF7fWlJtm2e5R/ZNAOLbt5lg3LI25gJaXmQNsv0 bAGa04I4J0tbuxNsMBj0Q57RB5pX2cmSbkYlKuGaoexo/gVEMOpfN1SOpIdzQ+yJ/O YfPNiaQsdOEv57q+aVKF4Wv/jPSoOIOSI2EdODSGEzQ5bRO72d1jChHgHBND//7VEG xPpWYWqctCgtQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4FQGvS756bz6tmK; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 12:27:16 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83a6psq932.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 21 Apr 2021 12:29:37 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FROM_FMBLA_NEWDOM=1.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268227 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 09:20:24 +0000 >> >> Here is an updated version, not with improved visuals: > > It looks like this only supports displaying selection lists and > interacting with users via buffers? If so, I think we should also > support doing that via GUI dialogs (in Emacs configurations that > support dialogs, which nowadays means almost every build). This is > what many other applications do, so I think we had better did the > same, at least as an option. > > Of course, selections via dialogs not always make sense, so this > should be one of the possible UIs we support, not the only one. Ideally yes, but is it possible to have a menu that can be both selected and expanded? If not, I think the interface for selecting-read should be updated to reflect this restriction (making every object with children non-selectable). > Thanks. -- Philip K.