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From: Yuchen Pei <hi@ypei.me>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: NonGNU ELPA rules regarding nonfree software
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 15:41:00 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87im06vteb.fsf@ypei.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1mENbm-0003ML-AL@fencepost.gnu.org>

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Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

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>   > I notice that org-mac-link.el in org-contrib[1] interacts 
>   > with 
>   > many nonfree programs.
>
> You may be right that this goes against GNU standards.
> Thanks for reporting it.
>
> Could you please describe the situation in more detail?
> For instance, give the names of two or three of those nonfree 
> programs
> and describe how org-mac-link.el interacts with them?

The nonfree programs include Finder (the default file manager on a 
Mac OS X), Google Chrome and Microsoft Outlook.

I haven't used the package, so I will just paste the description 
in the file which is probably better than my summary after reading 
the code myself:

> ;; This code allows you to grab either the current selected 
> items, or
> ;; the frontmost url in various mac appliations, and insert them 
> as
> ;; hyperlinks into the current org-mode document at point.

>
> Also, what is the status of org-contrib in relation to Emacs?
> Is org-contrib part of GNU Emacs?  Is it in NonGNU ELPA?

I believe it is just part of the NonGNU ELPA.

>
> Does anything in Emacs mention the existence of org-contrib
> or say where to find it?  If so, could you show me the text
> that mentions it, and say where that is found in Emacs?

I did a grep in the Emacs source tree as of commit 3502321403, and 
I could find a few places matching `org-contrib`. These mentions 
are mostly in urls, rather than the package itself:

> grep -inRH --color -A1 -B1 -E org-contrib . /dev/null
> ./doc/misc/org.org-16566-language-specific online documentation 
> at
> ./doc/misc/org.org:16567:https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/.
> ./doc/misc/org.org-16568-
> --
> ./doc/misc/org.org-17959-Additional documentation for some 
> languages is at
> ./doc/misc/org.org:17960:https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages.html.
> ./doc/misc/org.org-17961-
> --
> ./doc/misc/org.org-19647-If you are now browsing
> ./doc/misc/org.org:19648:=https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.html= 
> and find
> ./doc/misc/org.org-19649-a typo or have an idea about how to 
> enhance the documentation, simply
> --
> ./doc/misc/org.org-19912-directory for a list of contributed 
> files.  Worg page with more
> ./doc/misc/org.org:19913:information is at: 
> https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/.
> ./doc/misc/org.org-19914-
> --
> ./lisp/org/org.el-18391-  (let* ((org-dir 
> (org-find-library-dir "org"))
> ./lisp/org/org.el:18392:	 (contrib-dir (or 
> (org-find-library-dir "org-contribdir") org-dir))
> ./lisp/org/org.el-18393-	 (feature-re 
> "^\\(org\\|ob\\|ox\\)\\(-.*\\)?")
> --
> ./lisp/org/ob-lilypond.el-6-;; Keywords: babel language, 
> literate programming
> ./lisp/org/ob-lilypond.el:7:;; Homepage: 
> https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-lilypond.html
> ./lisp/org/ob-lilypond.el-8-
> --
> ./lisp/org/ob-lilypond.el-26-;; Installation, ob-lilypond 
> documentation, and examples are available at
> ./lisp/org/ob-lilypond.el:27:;; 
> https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-lilypond.html
> ./lisp/org/ob-lilypond.el-28-;;
> --
> ./lisp/org/ob-stan.el-41-;; For more information and usage 
> examples, visit
> ./lisp/org/ob-stan.el:42:;; 
> https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-stan.html
> ./lisp/org/ob-stan.el-43-;;
> --
> ./etc/ORG-NEWS-1877-
> ./etc/ORG-NEWS:1878:If you want to contribute to it, please see 
> [[https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html][how to 
> contribute]].
> ./etc/ORG-NEWS-1879-
> --
> ./etc/ORG-NEWS-2241-For more information and usage examples, 
> visit
> ./etc/ORG-NEWS:2242:https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-stan.html
> ./etc/ORG-NEWS-2243-
> --
> ./etc/ORG-NEWS-3643-    the top.  This table is called 
> "favtable".  See the documentation on
> ./etc/ORG-NEWS:3644: 
> [[https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-favtable.html][Worg]].
> ./etc/ORG-NEWS-3645-

> Grep finished with 11 matches found at Mon Aug 16 15:31:45

-- 
Best,
Yuchen

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-16  5:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-12 13:25 NonGNU ELPA rules regarding nonfree software Yuchen Pei
2021-08-13  3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-16  5:41   ` Yuchen Pei [this message]
2021-08-16  5:43     ` Yuchen Pei
2021-08-18  3:20       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-18 12:37         ` Yuchen Pei
2021-08-19  2:35           ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-16 12:15     ` Eli Zaretskii

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